The display window in the basement is considered as one window.
The window to the Basement is similar to a display window. Dalinar entered in the guest mansion while the group was entering it. Arya and Adolin are locked by Astrid inside the room in the Basement. Shallan entered in the Basement window either by going unnoticed from the door to the window, or by using the window, which was unlocked either by Arya, Adolin, or Astrid, and locking it before Astrid locked the door, being in the window is the same as being in the Basement since the window constitutes a part of the basement, however, by not crossing past that display part, she never entered in the room in the Basement. Shallan kills Arya and Adolin, and breaks down the window to leave the Basement. Astrid unlocks the door with Shallan by her side, at that time, Dalinar is spotted by them either coming down to the Basement, or being just outside the window, while Arya and Adolin were the only ones in the room in the Basement. Shallan or Astrid kill Dalinar while he was either inside the Basement or outside the guest mansion. Astrid kills Shallan and commits suicide.
Holy shit this isn’t over yet?
I think Luadog is busy, I hope he responds to me someday. But there’s also a chance he’s still thinking of a way to deny my awesome theory 
The Basement window was not unlocked by Astrid, Arya, or Adolin.
Yeah sorry about dropping off the grid. I had a bunch of stuff from work, Uni, and commitments I had made with friends overlap and I barely had any time this weekend.
The culprit for the basement murders was not human. The two victims found in the basement had planned to fake their deaths, and thus they faked the stakes in their head. The real “stakes” referred in the red could’ve been the beast’s teeth, which tore off as it viciously devoured its victims. How had the beast entered? It burst through the glass of the closed and locked window. The window was thus open - after all, there was a giant hole in it - but undeniably closed and locked at the same time, as well as unusable. The beast then exited through a dog door in the door. It is not a secret passage, it is part of the door. The door is indeed locked, so there are no contradictions. The dog then went upstairs and killed Dalinar, who snuck into the guesthouse as the others were entering. This explains all of the murders and doesn’t, as far as I know, contradict any of the red. The bodies in this case were indeed the five stated in red. They were all victims or witnesses. The beast was indeed inside the room when it killed everyone. It was not let in. The beast - this dog - was mentioned in the story. After all, luaDOG had promised he was the one who’d killed “these” people (possibly referring to the people in the basement) before the story had even begun.
I’ll see myself out now.
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Oh my god. I… I just wish that I could give more likes. This is the best answer I’ve ever seen, and I think will ever see. I’ll even elevate it to a Red Truth, just not the one for this murder.
In an alternate universe, this was how the murder was committed.The culprit for the basement murders was not human. The two victims found in the basement had planned to fake their deaths, and thus they faked the stakes in their head. The real “stakes” referred in the red could’ve been the beast’s teeth, which tore off as it viciously devoured its victims. How had the beast entered? It burst through the glass of the closed and locked window. The window was thus open - after all, there was a giant hole in it - but undeniably closed and locked at the same time, as well as unusable. The beast then exited through a dog door in the door. It is not a secret passage, it is part of the door. The door is indeed locked, so there are no contradictions. The dog then went upstairs and killed Dalinar, who snuck into the guesthouse as the others were entering. This explains all of the murders and doesn’t, as far as I know, contradict any of the red. The bodies in this case were indeed the five stated in red. They were all victims or witnesses. The beast was indeed inside the room when it killed everyone. It was not let in. The beast - this dog - was mentioned in the story. After all, luaDOG had promised he was the one who’d killed “these” people (possibly referring to the people in the basement) before the story had even begun.
Sadly, it’s not the correct answer, although I REALLY want it to be.
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Why, thank you very much.
Although, I do have to point out, I do need a red that tells me why it’s incorrect for this particular universe~
Totally not gonna use it to fish for info or anything
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No dogs were involved in this murder.
I was hoping for a good ol’ fashioned “killer had to be human”, but that works too given the doggy door, I suppose.
Anyway, let’s see… You said that no person could have more than one name, but what about switching names?
For example, something like Persona A and Person B pretending to be each other. (Say decided to do it before even arriving on the island.) So in the narration, A would appear as B, and B would appear as A. Thus, if the narration said “A and C walked into the room.” it would, in truth have been, B and C.
What I’m asking is to basically repeat this in red: The narration identifies all characters by their real names.
The window to the Basement is similar to a display window. Dalinar entered in the guest mansion while the group was entering it. Arya and Adolin are locked by Astrid inside the room in the Basement. Dalinar entered in the Basement window by going unnoticed from the door to the window, being in the window is the same as being in the Basement since the window constitutes a part of the basement, however, by not crossing past that display part, she never entered in the room in the Basement. Dalinar kills Arya and Adolin, and breaks down the window to leave the Basement. Astrid unlocks the door with Shallan by her side, at that time, Dalinar is spotted by them, it doesn’t matter where he was as long as Arya and Adolin were the only ones in the room in the Basement. Shallan or Astrid kill Dalinar. Astrid kills Shallan and commits suicide.
I really hope this is the right answer, this is getting ridiculous.
Hmm…
Wouldn’t this shoot that theory down…?
I do admit I’m kinda stuck myself, given that there is a red that basically denies the two viable suspects entering the window, despite it being confirmed the window was opened at some point (for what purpose, is unknown), while at the same time confirming the door wasn’t used to get in. Couple that with the same person needing to be responsible with both killings, and the only thing that comes to mind at this point really is a name trick of some kind… Even though I’m a bit unsure how it would work out with the red about the room being empty when Adolin and Arya entered the room, making the scenario that much more… weird.
The alternative is that the “window” is a special type of window… but the best I came up with was a furnace, and even then, there are a bunch of reds denying whatever scenario I can come up for it…
The window is in the basement even though it’s not in the room in the basement. Pretty sure this can be said in red, but I won’t be so rude.
Hmm, pretty sure there’s this red, though…
That just means there are no more than one door and one window even if the Basement and the room in the Basement is not the same thing. I understand your confusion though, this was a huge discussion and Luadog said himself he didn’t like this tale, there is no particular reason for the characters’ behaviour and it’s not even a mystery, but a logic puzzle. You literally arrived in the endgame where I simply have to adjust the facts until I match the correct answer, I don’t think there are any tricks left for this game, that puppy is fully cornered.
Where’s Blackrune now?
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RIP
It’s a shame, though. Even if it is wordplay, I was hoping there was a simple explanation that revealed we were misinterpreting something about the story and the way it was told. Alas.
all hail the dog explanation
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On mobile so I can’t search for it, but Red 76.
Arya and Adolin were the first ones to enter the Basement.
Also, there is like one more trick.
I’ll throw a bone to you guys. Cause of the sheer volume of Reds, it’s hard to find where you need to ask for elaboration on a term. I’ll point out like 2 or 3 Reds that can be played with to come closer to the right answer if you want. Alternatively, I could give a Red that could clarify a term that would also be useful.
I just want this game to end. Put me out of my misery.
Well, go ahead. Better than dissecting the entire basement. 
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That doesn’t disprove my theory, I never said they didn’t, it doesn’t even matter to that theory, but you’re not the only one in misery so please do something about this endless adjustment of theories.