Favourite Umineko adults? (Spoilers)

It’s really funny, I feel like the adults are the best characters of Umineko. I love them all so much! I’d probably rank them something like Kyrie>Rosa>Eva>Natsuhi>Hideyoshi>Rudolf>Krauss
But couplewise I’d rank it Kyrie and Rudolf>Rosa>Eva and Hideyoshi>Krauss and Natsuhi

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Gotta love Kyrie and Rudolf. Probably the maddest bastards there, but I just cant help but love them. Especially Kyrie, shes got one of my favorite voice actors so that helps things a lot.

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Kyrie is pretty 10 out of 10, especially if you buy into the theory that she knew she was going to die (such as her gun being jammed) so she played up her hatred of Ange to make Eva adopt her out of sympathy. Such a logical thinker, right to the very end.

Rosa and Eva are the best. Natsuhi and Rudolf are also good.

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Honestly I am a bit surprised by how well-liked Krauss and Natsuhi appear to be, I always thought of them as just some characters that don’t get much attention, but oh well, it probably goes to show how little I know about the fandom. I do admit though, that they are interesting characters and definitely some of the most well-meaning ones in Umineko.

Why is the vote about couples? :confused: My favorite Adult is Natsuhi. I just love her. Since Episode 1… One of the main reasons Ep 1 is one of my fav episodes. But when the votes are as couples, my vote has to be Rudolf and Kyrie. Especially Kyrie, obviously

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Ehh, I really like both Rudolf and Kyrie and Eva and Hideyoshi. I’m so torn, but I went with Eva and Hideyoshi, partially because they are underdogs. I love Natsuhi too of course, but if we are talking couples I don’t think they were the best one honestly. And Rosa… Well, I like her I guess… as a character at least.

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It was very close between the three couples ! I love them all as characters, and although of course they’re a huge mess I chose Krauss and Natsuhi. Natsuhi gets so much thrown at her (particularly from Eva which was a reason I didn’t choose her), and Krauss gave us the wonderful moon tourism. Kyrie and Rudolf I never really liked, and less as the episodes progressed. Rosa isn’t even an option because I absolutely detest her for how she treats Maria.

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My feelings toward Rosa in a nutshell:

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Oh boy. Very tough choice betweenn Kraus and Natsuhi (I love Natsuhi!) and Eva and Hideyoshi (I love Eva!). Ultimately, I went with the former option as Hideyoshi is not really a developed character. And besides, that scene in ep 5 between Krauss and Natsuhi was one of the sweetest in the entire series. <3
Rosa is too much of a train wreck for me and Kyrie and Rudolf have such a dangerous air around them that I do not dare approach.

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I chose Eva and Hideyoshi. Despite the way Eva interacts with some characters, I think she really does mean well for George, and she’s almost the mother I wished I had.

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I like them all so it’s a tough choice. Hideyoshi is as close as any adult in the game gets to being both a model parent, husband and (presumably) employer. Krauss is a (fun) buffoon whose heart is in the right place when push comes to shove. Rudolf is fun. Natsuhi somehow remains relatively sane, responsible and in her own way dignified despite all the shits she has to deal with.

If I have to pick one though it got to be between Eva, Rosa and Kyrie. In the first half Kyrie is a consistently level-headed, understanding and generally cool adult. In the second half she makes for an excellent short-term villain. Rosa somehow manages to be sympathetic despite her relationship with Maria and unlike the other adults she really doesn’t have anyone fall back on when she’s at her breaking point. That and she’s badass as hell. Yeah they were fantasy scenes but screw it the ending to Episode 2 was one of the coolest thing in the entire story. Eva manages to make the best of her situation through sheer competence and determination and she earned what little happiness she got out of the story. I voted Rosa since I expected her to have the least votes but really it could have been anyone between the three.

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Like a lot of the other replies, I was torn between Kyrie and Eva, along with their respective husbands. In the end, I have to give it to Kyrie and Rudolf. Kyrie especially really came off as a clever, resourceful person and seeing her in action was a joy to watch.

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Couple-wise, Eva and Hideyoshi have quite literally the healthiest relationship between them, since their marriage is healthy, it’s just Eva who’s… got issues. To me, Kyrie and Rudolf have quite a fascinating relationship, that one could say is like Macbeth and Lady Macbeth (without the Lady Macbeth becoming less important part).

I like Eva the most of the adults, followed by Kyrie, Rudolf, Rosa, and then Krauss. I wish Hideyoshi was expanded upon more, so I could rank him. And frankly, Natsuhi reminds me too much of certain people in my life I can’t stand (and her Stans are so annoying that I feel bad for the people who are her fans and don’t excuse what she did).

Kind of a hard choice between Krauss and Natsuhi or Hideyoshi and Eva.

Krauss can be a bit of a jerk, but he at least shows some remorse for how he acted toward his siblings in the past, he gets an epic scene in Episode 4 (yes, that one) and it’s honestly adorable how much of an idiot he can be with business decisions plus Krauss x Natsuhi is super sweet, and Natsuhi’s not so bad, attitutde toward servants aside.

Hideyoshi’s a pretty cool guy, true, he doesn’t get much character development but I like his cheery attitude. Eva can be pretty harsh as a mother though you can understand why and her perserverance is admirable. She genuinely does care about her husband and son and that really shows.

My vote goes to Eva and Hideyoshi.

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For me is completely Rosa, my feelings towards her since the episode 2 are totally disproportionate. But Kyrie and Rudolf are also an incredible couple. Kyrie is such a exciting character, i don’t know if her is a horrible parent or a nice parent.

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It’s so hard to choose between them because they’re all so wonderfully complex and I have such a hard time deciding between Eva & Hideyoshi and Kyrie & Rudolf. But in the end I like Kyrie and Rudolf a bit more, probably because Hideyoshi got comparably little characterisation compared to Rudolf.
They’re both such fascinating characters with Rudolf as the sleazy cheater who still has a heart of gold and loves his family while Kyrie is an incredibly intelligent woman who’s darker side make it difficult for judge if she’s someone to admire or someone to fear.

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I love love love loooooove Natsuhi so much, I feel so sad for her sometimes just because of her situations and all her ailments - must protect Natsuhi. I don’t think Krauss is a bad guy and I definitely think his heart is in the right place but I sometimes get really mad/upset at his lack of comfort to Natsuhi, though I know the things going on make that a bit difficult, probably. But man, Natsuhi is suuuuch a wonderful character. I really do wish her the best. She tries to hard to protect the honor and the dignity of the family, even after Kinzo’s death. She seriously makes me so sad and happy at the same time, because she’s basically treated like shit by Eva and it makes me feel really bad because of how seriously Natushi takes the One-Winged Eagle and the honor of the family, even though she’s treated no better than a stray dog sometimes. She’s incredibly strong - I’ll always root for Natsuhi!!

Eva, too. I think she’s probably one of the happiest adults, and her marriage to Hideyoshi also seems to be the healthiest compared to the other members of the family. I think the way she raises George to be the best he can be and does everything she can do for his sake is really beautiful, too. I wish my parents had been like that with me, haha. The only thing I don’t particularly like is her trying to put a strain on George’s relationship with Shannon. Just because she thinks her and Hideyoshi finding George a spouse is the best thing for him stability wise doesn’t necessarily mean it’s the best for him in terms of a happy resolution. But with that said, with the way Eva tends to everything else to raise George to be the best he can be, and to have the most rewarding life he can have, it doesn’t surprise me at all that she dislikes the idea of George being with Shannon. Hideyoshi is a wonderful guy, too. A model father, in my opinion. He seems very happy go lucky and because of the way his personality seems to change the atmosphere, I think he’s exactly the type of guy Eva needs in her life. So even if the two of them (mainly Eva) sorta try to do too much for George, I think they make a great couple and family overall.

I don’t know how I feel about Rudolf, though. I felt so bad for Kyrie upon knowing about her years of envy and suffering. I’ve admired some guys who were total players, and who gave me false hope, so I know how that shit stings. I think Kyrie is very admirable for wanting to be with Rudolf despite that and doing everything she can to achieve it. I can’t say any amount of effort or tests or trials would work if that situation were replicated outside of Umineko, though…

Rosa, oh god. I can’t even say for sure if I like her or not, based on the way she treats Maria. I know there’s some sort of stigma about single women with a child in Japan, or something, but I don’t think that’s an excuse at all for her actions. At the same time, I hope she does find a guy who treats her right and accepts Maria. I really don’t know if I like or dislike Rosa… but my god, I was completely destroyed over Maria still seeing Rosa in a good light despite everything, and just passing off abusive Rosa as the bad witch. It’s so heart breaking! Even if Maria made her days happier with magic, it’s still horrible that she had to use that magic to write over the bad events she was trying not to see. My heart goes out to Maria.

Kinzo… well, huh. I guess after reading EP5 and starting EP6, I can sort of understand where his insane devotion comes from. On one hand, I really do think he must have seriously, seriously loved Beatrice. But on the other, it doesn’t justify his actions. I don’t think Kinzo is a bad person at all, though. At least not in his younger days.

Nanjo seems like a grandpa kinda guy, really easy going. I don’t think the story delves deep enough into his life, but if I had to say anything about Nanjo, he seems like the kinda guy who would be great to have around for light hearted discussions.

I don’t think I can pick a favorite, honestly. This is too hard. I may have gotten carried away. Whoops.

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Honestly i can’t decide between Eva and Natsuhi. Eva was always my favorite for her snark and independent attitude, but on a reread I’m finding Natsuhi to be an especially interesting character, given her relationship with Kinzo. She seems to depend on the approval of the head of the family so much for her daily activities, and in many ways is the leader of the household due to both Kinzo’s inactivity and Krauss’ preoccupation with his business ventures.

I find it difficult to pick favourite characters, especially in a story like this where really everyone gets time in the spotlight some degree, and every one of them feels ‘human’ to me. With the way the narrative is structured too we get to see both the good and the bad of all of the characters depending on how the twilights play out. I think that’s why i like them though, I like villains even more than I like heroes, and villains doing wrong things for the right reasons always draws me in. The fact that we get to see all of the adults as both heroes and villains (sometimes flashing from one to the other in a matter of minutes) is why I find them so damn compelling.

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Most of them are amazing characters, but the women here outshine men.

Personally, I couldn’t help but love and sympathize with Rosa despite her clear shortcomings. Her (and Maria’s) story was pretty damn heart-wrenching. She had nobody to lean on and her family were a bunch of selfish d**ks, not excluding the crappy husband-to-be whose existence served to torment her. Among the inheritors, she was the only person who desired her share of the inheritance for a noble purpose. Namely, paying the debt and starting over as a better mother.

Rosa’s been deteriorating and her relationship with Maria worsened as her inexcusable abuses increased, but she didn’t completely “choose” to be that way, and she had an awareness of her problems which she was intent on solving them. Finally, the word “godawful” doesn’t begin to describe how bad her luck is, having harbored a traumatic guilt for accidentally causing 2nd Beatrice’s death and keeping it secret when all she did was give Beatrice a sense of freedom. Then goes on to endure hearing her mad father and defiant daughter bring her name up over and over again? That’s all sorts of f***d up. Her kindness was answered by misfortune, used and often ridiculed and mocked by her partner and own family.

Morally speaking, I’d rank them as follows:
Hideyoshi > Rosa = Krauss > Natsuhi = Eva > Kyrie = Rudolf

Most interesting couples:
Rudolf/Kyrie > Hideyoshi/Eva = Krauss/Natsuhi > Rosa/A-hole-partner

Favorites:
Rosa > Eva > Kyrie > Rudolf = Natsuhi > Hideyoshi = Krauss

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