Post your unpopular opinions about 07th works!

All 07th works go but needless to say put spoiler tags where appropriate please.

I’ll start with some Umineko spoilers:

George gets more hate than he deserves.

Yasu would have never actually killed the cousins like she said she would in the message bottles, via the bomb or otherwise.

The pachinko sprites aren’t as terrible as people say they are.

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I agree completely except for Battler’s hair.
It haunts me in my sleep

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Higanbana is a little heavy-handed sometimes in its themes.

Umineko can occasionally feel a little redundant with its dialogue.

Higurashi’s true answer is mildly farfetched.

Come at me.

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Agree with both, especially the first one. Some people go way overboard with that, especially because this line can be interpreted this way or that way, so obviously it has to be true. :sweating:

Another one: the manga adaptation of Umineko is actually nice and doesn’t deserve the amount of flak it gets on a consistent basis (at least from what I’ve seen on Rokkenjima).

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Wait… it does? Here I thought it was amazing! Well… except for the covers (not just the stupid ecchi stuff that makes me squirmish about anyone seeing my Higurashi Mangas, but also that they’ve put a certain someone onto one of the last ones…) and maybe some aspects about how clear-cut the answers were. Or how atrocious Kei Natsumi’s first pages of each given Episode are… Oh well, those still are rather minor nitpicks, not outright flak.

Here my (apparently) unpopular opinion: Putting D-cups onto every female character and putting them in cut-out showgirl-skirts is neither clever nor appealing, it’s just stupid and unnecessary.

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It’s sort of arranged in a shape that looks… triangular…it’s so wierd.

Yeah it’s pretty supernatural despite being explained with ‘science’

Whaaa why do people hate it?

I definitely agree with the first one, though I’m not as sold on the second - Given how depressed Yasu was,
I can see her as being able to just turn the bomb on and go to sleep until it goes off. If she were to stop and consider that blowing the island up will kill the cousins, too, then I can see her having a change of heart, though.

For the last one… Yeah, I definitely didn’t like the Pachinko sprites at first, but they’ve grown on me, for the most part. Some of them (mainly Battler’s) still look somewhat… odd, to me, and I like how the PS3 sprites have a bit more variety in their poses (Battler crossing his arms, Kyrie’s “flip the chessboard” gesture, etc.), but they’re not bad.

Time for my unpopular opinion! I really can’t stand Erika. Not even in an “I love to hate her” way, I just can’t stand her at all. The way she targets Natsuhi in Ep5 and Maria over the candy trick in Ep6… I think it hits a bit of a sore spot for me, and her backstory later on in Ep6 just doesn’t work for me. She serves her purpose really well (particularly in Ep5), but she just doesn’t work for me.

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It’s less an opinion and more a bit of wishful thinking, isn’t it? I actually shared it for quite some time and was really pleasantly relieved when it turned out that Beatrice never got to kill anyone. It only changed after I’ve thought quite a lot about the preparations she had to make for the massacre to happen the way it did, so she was obviously intending to go through with it, even though the question still remains whether it was possible for her to freak out and back down when it comes to killing in real life with all its ugliness. And when it comes to the cousins… a minor thing I noticed while reading the Manga of Episode 8 was that Kyrie only ‘missed’ every single one of her shots because she took the gun with the blanks Natsuhi had in Episode 1. It seems to me that Beatrice intended to go through with Episode 1 in Real Life, the one where she never killed any of the cousins herself, but let the bomb do the dirty work. So it seems just like you say.

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I probably like George more than I do Battler

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Isn’t it just a valid theory (So long as you provide the accompanying explanations for all the outcomes that is) that is equal to all other such theories that can neither be proven or disproven?

He was more likable on re-read if viewed as a semi-dark knight. First round he felt like an annoying internet white knight.

My unpopular opinion: Umineko EP8 was great, almost all of the problems fans found with it are products of their own delusions

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I generally agree with this about EP8, literally my only issue with episode 8 is a little bit of a pacing issue and that’s really it.

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Battler is not that incompetent. Fight me.

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Shrugs It is about as much of a theory as the guesswork of whether Battler wrote a letter to Shannon that was destroyed by George or not. It just depends on what you’d trust the characters to do. In this specific case it is even more blurry, because it isn’t about something that actually happened or had an influence on any events, but whether such a possibility even exists in that Yasu just backs down at the last moment. My own initial hope that Yasu was planning a playacting without real murders would be more of a theory, but it regrettably can’t stand the reality check of her having loaded guns piled up in the room of the gold. Why would she do that if not for shooting people? Like I said, it seems a rather clear case that she was trying to enact the events of Episode 1 with all that comes with it.

The PS3 sprites are actually not crap and are superior to the original sprites.

(I think this might be the most unpopular one, lol)

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blurry photo backgrounds are legitimately good and immersive (beyond being 4:3)

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Umineko EP8 is the best EP. :bern:

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I did say that Yasu wouldn’t have killed the cousins as she loved them all, everyone else I think is fair game though.

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Yeah, I did understand what you meant, I only expanded it in a way that we do know to a certain degree that her murder-plan mirrored Episode 1 in which she indeed never killed any of the cousins with her own hands, possibly because she knew that she may not have been able to go through with it when in a situation to kill one of her loved ones. With that in mind your idea now only needs to deal with whether she would have disarmed the bomb to have time for a real-life tea party or didn’t disarm it to have it in the afterlife. Personally I suspect the latter, but there is no reason to completely refute the former.

I think Jooji definitely gets more hate than he deserves, in particular when it comes to his relationship with Yasu. He was actually one of the few people that managed to bring happiness into her life and would have made her happy if she had gotten over her insecurities.

In comparison I think Battler/Beatrice gets too much of a free pass given how it’s entirely based on a connection established when they were both 12 years old. Even with the manga establishing Meta-Battler and Meta-Beato are indeed their souls, it still hard for me to take their “love story” seriously. By the time Battler understood the poor girl, she was already dead. It really feels like emotional blackmail, at times.

Natsuhi is a genuine terrible person that (almost) killed a baby and a servant and got away with it, even if I understand her circumstances, the “muh pure nappi” meme is awful.

Higurashi’s solution is not that bad in the novel, though I feel like R07 doesn’t have an high opinion of Higurashi anymore given how much he mocks it in Umineko.

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Even though I love Natsuhi’s character (she’s my favourite) she is definitely a terrible person. To be honest I think it’s characters such as hers that are the best part of Umineko, despite being so flawed they’re all very human.