Rokkenjima Mafia - Game VI [Game Over - Witch Side Victory]

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#221

You got the numbers wrong there.

…You know, Kari complained to RNGeesus that he was witch too often in these games, but I myself got some incredible luck. In any game where I wasn’t witch (which were three, not two (Mafia IV, Mafia Roulette II and Clear Sky)), I was some sort of detective. (Paired with me being Hitler four times in a row when I was playing Secret Hitler for the first time, I’d say I have some weird luck, but that’s neither here nor there)

As for everything else, I currently read lobotomyprince as human, the same going for Antra, to be honest. I’m guessing @SleepingPliskin is referring to the post where Antra posted an image of a Guillottine? I honestly took that as his usual sense of humor, using a fitting stock image for the situation, so that part is a neutral thing to me. And actually starting the train on Blackrune there is something I more perceived as a human thing, thus my read.

Furthermore, having human reads on the first day is actually useful, as it lessens the pool of possible subjects. Of course those reads can (and perhaps should) change on subsequent days, but it’s a point to start from.

Well and then, it seems our GM won’t be super thorough, so I guess we have to step up. So have a Voting Summary listing every vote, not just those that are currently active. Also gonna use one of those neat summary boxes for reading pleasure. Also this time I’m gonna add even more info, putting in brackets how each vote affected totals.

Summary

VyseGolbez votes UsagiTenpura (UsagiTenpura 0 -> 1)
Antra votes Blackrune (Blackrune 0 -> 1)
King_Titanite_XV votes Blackrune (Blackrune 1 -> 2)
thesorceress votes midsummer (midsummer 0 -> 1)
akafa123 votes Blackrune (Blackrune 2 -> 3)
Wonderlander votes AMF (AMF 0 -> 1)
AMF votes Blackrune (Blackrune 3 -> 4)
akafa123 unvotes (Blackrune 4 -> 3)
Antra votes Rabla (Blackrune 3 -> 2; Rabla 0 -> 1)
AMF unvotes (Blackrune 2 -> 1)
Wonderlander votes EternalMagician (AMF 1 -> 0; EternalMagician 0 -> 1)
midsummer votes Antra (Antra 0 -> 1)
Wonderlander unvotes (EternalMagician 1 -> 0)
Antra unvotes (Rabla 1 -> 0)
VyseGolbez votes AMF (UsagiTenpura 1 -> 0; AMF 0 -> 1)
King_Titanite_XV votes Muski (Blackrune 1 -> 0; Muski 0 -> 1)
thesorceress votes Muski (midsummer 1 -> 0; Muski 1 -> 2)
Wonderlander votes Rabla (Rabla 0 -> 1)
midsummer votes Rabla (Antra 1 -> 0; Rabla 1 -> 2)
UsagiTenpura votes SleepingPliskin (SleepingPliskin 0 -> 1)
thesorceress votes akafa123 (Muski 2 -> 1; akafa123 0 -> 1)
Antra votes King_Titanite_XV (King_Titanite_XV 0 -> 1)
akafa123 votes AMF (AMF 1 -> 2)
Muski votes No Lynch (No Lynch 0 -> 1)
AMF votes Rabla (Rabla 2 -> 3)
King_Titanite_XV votes AMF (Muski 1 -> 0; AMF 2 -> 3)
King_Titanite_XV unvotes (AMF 3 -> 2)
UsagiTenpura votes Doldod (SleepingPliskin 1 -> 0; Doldod 0 -> 1)
Blackrune votes Rabla (Rabla 3 -> 4)

Actually good thing I made this summary, otherwise I would have missed the following: @lobotomyprince You know, it’s weird, akafa was actually the first one to step off the Blackrune wagon (or train, whatever), with an unvote, no less, something you criticised AMF for, and yet you don’t find her suspicious. This also pushes what I previously said about you more towards neutral.

#222

I have the opposite problem. I’m human way too often in these games.

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#223

To be fair, I noticed. Some of you are a little too trusting of “helpful” people. , In the back of my mind, I sort of thought the same thing about Usagi. Hehehe. I wanted to bite my tongue because no one else seemed to be considering they could be a Witch. Usagi seems seasoned so they know how to play. I didn’t want to throw myself out there and then wind up “mysteriously” dead. I’ve noticed some people (I don’t remember who) have suggested they could be a witch, but I’m not convinced. I haven’t been making assumptions about who is human because it’s too early to tell. I think I have a good theory of who the witches are…

#224

But, it’s still to early to tell. I definitely can’t narrow it down to three or even two people. I have a bit of a hunch. I don’t want to name more than one person because I feel if I even do get more than one right, I’ll die. I thought I should clarify that…

#225

That’s a good point. I think that was an accident on my part, though. I don’t mean to sound so dogmatic, but I do think AMF’s behavior is kind of odd. As I’ve said, I don’t think identifying humans is too useful right now, so I don’t mind the suspicion.

#226

Oh no you’re going full picto.
Well, in this game dying fortunately doesn’t mean you lose right away.
Just keep in mind if you don’t share stuff like that, you might get killed before you ever get the chance if you’re unlucky. Not sure if that’s better.

#227

I may or may not have just forgotten you still win even if you are a ghost… aaaa. it’s been a while.

#228

Anyway, thanks to blackrunes embarrassing reminder, I guess I don’t have reason not to post. My play style was really affected by me not remembering that if you die as a human you can still win. That’s sort of why I’ve been firm on the AMF thing. I actually don’t play this game much at all… sorry >.>

#229

That’s fair. Now that has been cleared, we can defeat the witches! Hopefully lol

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#230

Well not that it really matters very much I suppose but just to be informative on this, this is actually my second time playing this (same for pliskin btw). Also I was the very first person anyone got any votes for. Not too sure why I’m saying this, it just felt like an information I had to correct. Tho I also played a game of secret oyashiro that gives me some information on a few more people to a lesser extent. In any case I can’t disagree with that line of thought we seems to both have.

It’s really hard to trust or distrust anyone I don’t really know well and it happens to be most people here this time (uh I think? I’d have to check everyone…).

People I’m leaning to be humans (maybe humans) are pliskin, blackrune and thesorceress.

In the case of pliskin and thesorceress I already mentioned why earlier, and in the case of blackrune … it’s actually that odd post…

… I feel like an idiot in a way for trusting him over this, but it somehow works. For now.

I don’t really have any strong thoughts about anyone else. I have really no idea how to go about things on day 1. Last game it took the end of day 2 for me to have any clear suspicion on anyone and clear trust on anyone.

While I’m prone to consider AMF a “new player who put a foot in his mouth” of some sort, this kind of assumption also ridiculously backfired against us last time.

Right now I just want Doldod to talk while I’m trying to more seriously consider who to vote for. AMF and akafa are people I’m considering, but I’m feeling like I’m missing something in the pattern people have behaved so far and there hasn’t really been any insights provided by anyone that helped me clear this very well. 16 people is a lot of people and there’s a large chunk that is being overall quiet…

For antra, I really don’t have any strong feelings either way.

Oh and for Rabla the only thing I’m really noticing there is that Wonderlander and midsummer cast their votes pretty much after I wrote a post that said “a quiet rabla is a suspicious rabla” tho I do think both have rather valid reasons for doing so and I’m not sure if that played any role in those accusations.

If it looks like I know what I’m doing… well I don’t. All I can think is that the last few hours of the “day” will probably tell us more information than the rest together so far, as it seems to be generally the case.

#231

Oh and…
Change vote : No Vote
Because I don’t want things to somehow happen quickly while I’m sleeping.

#232

good choice

#233

Alright, going to sleep now. See you when I wake up.

#234

Work’s kept me out of the game and it’ll keep me out of the game a good amount tomorrow. So, right before bed, I’m just stopping by to say.

Trust your instincts guys. I’m not sure if I’ve said this before but it needs saying. There seems like a lot of people are second guessing themselves and, at this point in the game, with so little information, you just have to go with what you think is most suspicious. Second guessing is for later on when there’s more facts. Before Daytime is up, try to zero in on who you think is most likely a witch. It might not be right, but it might be, and it’s better than questioning your intuition.

I’m not sure I have much else to say at this point. I agree with Usagi that Rabla is dangerous when quiet, but he also lives in a different time zone than many of us, something I forgot originally, so that could be nothing. I’m still keeping with my vote. Gut feelings are useful things when you can’t have facts.

#235

Hard to be active when most of the activity happens while you sleep, heh.
As for who to vote for… hmm… I don’t trust anybody yet and try to be especially vary of ‘helpful’ active players. Them being witches a lot of the time is a worst case scenario and I usually try to clear those out as soon as possible.
I do have hunches on who can be a witch though. AMF and King for reasons stated by others before me. Lobotomyprince just because gut feeling.
But I heard a valid reason as to why lynching Rabla right now gives us more information so I’m seriously considering doing that.
If you want to see my playstyle as a human you can look through the last few games starting with the picto’s infamous 5th one.

#236

I probably won’t be awake at the time this day ends, and I usually get too tired to type anything before deciding to sleep, so I’ll leave some final words right now in case I die or get voted off.

As previously stated, my vote for Rabla stays as is, since they didn’t provide any defense for themselves.
My opinions are pretty much the same as they were when I last summarized them.
I’ve tried my best to fend off suspicions about me without being overly defensive, but if I do get voted off then I hope the humans can at least create something of a sound discussion based on the ascertainment of my role (even though I really wasn’t able to contribute much, and I apologize for that).

#237

So, if I’m reading the situation right, we have three major lynch candidates right now. AMF, Antra and Rabla. AMF and Antra because a number of people have found them suspicious, Rabla because his death could potentially be informative.

I still prefer lynching Rabla, but AMF and Antra seem like reasonable witch candidates to me, so I would be willing to change my vote if we end up in a deadlock that threatens to leave this day without a lynch. I already talked about how I consider Antra somewhat suspicious. Regarding AMF, I could see him as a witch. He is more or less in the same group as akafa and King for me.

I also kinda hope we go with Rabla because for AMF, getting lynched on day one would make for a miserable first mafia game, and for Antra, if he actually was a witch, getting lynched on day one after finally getting his wish after all these games would feel just cruel. But mafia is a cruel game. If that’s the way the dice fall, then so be it.

My voting preferences would be Rabla > Antra > AMF, from most preferred to least preferred (but still acceptable). I think it would be useful if everyone else gave their thoughts regarding those three as well.

Or we could just go with the Rokkenjima meta and all accuse EternalMagician instead. Can’t have a game without Eternal being a witch suspect on day one.

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#238

I hope this doesn’t come off as rude, but you’re a little soft. I don’t know about Antra, but I wouldn’t really mind if I got voted off early. It’s the way of the game, after all. If my instincts are wrong and you’re a human, please go with what you think is most logical in regards to Rabla and I. (Again, I can’t speak for Antra, and trying to do so would be really improper even if they are a witch.)

#239

I’m perfectly fine with voting either you or Antra off - I just prefer going with what I would consider the nicer option if the options seem equally logical choices. From my perspective, Rabla is the most logical choice for now, so “niceness” is just an extra reason to feel good about my choice, not the primary motivation.

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#240

This post kinda makes me think Antra is human. Especially since he’s never been witch before.

AMF is actually lowest on my list of ‘No Idea’. (although not enough for me to be really convinced they could be witch.)
I do still kind of like the logic with Rabla that people hesitated to jump on them compared to me. Though those people might not have wanted to do it again simply because everyone expressed their surprise when it happened the first time.