I mean my prime suspect is @midsummer, so there’s that
I don’t think you are the most suspicious. But you are in the list of possible suspects nonetheless, the only reliable thing we can analyze is vote logs and you, same as me, is not one of the lucky people who got cleared of suspicion.
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ok, do what you need to do
I would consider lynching midsummer though, yeah, he behaved strangely last day and his reads on the first day can be easily interpreted as a witch trying to seem active and valuable. Also, he himself pointed out that he’s done it before.
…And when I abstain from voting, of course the target turns out a witch. Figures.
You have no reason to believe me, but since I said I would elaborate on my thoughts on the Wonderlander vs akafa conflict early Day 3, I’ll say that I didn’t have witch reads on either of them - the only time I’ve seen akafa play was when he died on day one, and Wonderlander seems to me like a human trying his best - but I would have voted for akafa because I felt Wonderlander was in the same predicament as me, that is, people rising up to cast suspicion on those perceived as active and influential, and thus I was distrustful of the Wonderlander vote train, while I had no particular reason to believe the akafa voters had sinister motives.
I could claim that my post saying “if I voted now it’d only look like I was joining the more popular train” when akafa had more votes than Wonderlander implies that I was going to vote for akafa, but that hardly proves anything.
In any case, I feel last night’s nightkill supports my working theory that Wonderlander is innocent and there is a witch, if not two, among those who pushed for Wonderlander to be lynched. I recall thesorceress explicitly stating that she’s pretty convinced the results of the lynch on Day 2 will bring witches to light, and would’ve most likely spearheaded that theory today, were she alive. So, people on that side of yesterday’s conflict are pretty high on my suspect list.
If I had to pick a favourite, I’d go with @SleepingPliskin. I recall him being a major part of the sudden movement against me and Wonderlander the previous day, and his playstyle so far kinda fits the bill too. On day one, he posted a lot, but mostly he just asked people for their opinions instead of giving his own thoughts, which would be a good move for the witch-side - bait people to give out their suspicions, and then you can join in whatever train you want to go through and later argue that it isn’t your fault, it was the fault of the one who spoke against the poor lynched human first. He looks active, but his only personal contribution so far seems to have been casting suspicion on me and Wonderlander.
So, Pliskin, please give me a reason to believe you’re a human. It could be I’m forgetting some major contribution of yours or somesuch.
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@King_Titanite_XV That’s the other quote from sorceress, she posted that right after voting akafa.
Meanwhile, I’m wondering if akafa channeling Rabla in his final moments was him calling for his witch buddy, him trying to mislead us, or just a random post.
Gonna have dinner now, so see you in half an hour or so.
sigh. Ok so here is the thing, I can’t argue that I’ve made a bad call with @Wonderlander (at least that’s what I believe), but I feel like I’m at least trying to find out who the witches are. I was asking for opinions day 1 because, in my opinion, it is really freaking stupid to call for blood at the beginning of the first day. I wanted to at least scout so that I can feel for confident about my claims. Maybe I should have waited until day 3 but at least we got @akafa123 due to @King_Titanite_XV getting annoyed with his bribery to Usagi. You may have done the mistake of voting for @AMF the first day, but I don’t know due to how weird you’ve been acting in Day 2.
However, I can also believe you’re human because your problems of potentially being a witch are the same as mine. Active player, people claiming we don’t help much, our assertive moves, etc
To go back on track, this caught my attention and maybe we should question @Rabla
My weird stance of not taking part in what happens with the lynch was an overreaction to the accusation that I was manipulating the results on day one. It was also partially motivated by not having the time to make proper theories and thus being a bit underconfident in whatever thoughts I could’ve expressed. But yeah, it was pretty foolish of me.
There isn’t much I can say about the allegation that I was just trying to look active. However, a question. If I was a witch just trying to look active, you can probably agree that Rabla isn’t a witch. Casting suspicion on a fellow witch with strong enough an argument that it can gather people around the accusation isn’t amazing witch side strategy on day one. So… why do you suppose I would’ve pulled the breaks on the Rabla train and changed my vote? Rabla is a veteran player who I would be very happy to have dead if I was a witch. There’s the argument that I switched to AMF on the last second because AMF had a gut feeling I was a witch, but the gut feeling of a single person who was under suspicion anyway really enough for me to drop the lucrative prospect of getting Rabla out of the game?
Also I’d like to bring up the point that last night, I was in a position in which I could’ve decided the vote either way. I could’ve either protected akafa and voted for Wonderlander, having 24 hours to think of a good reason why I would’ve chosen him over akafa, or I could’ve voted for akafa to cement myself as a human by bringing down a witch. For a witch side player, either of those options would’ve arguably been better than twiddling my thumbs and being indecisive. So, is it difficult to believe that my desire to not take part in the outcome was genuine?
I guess you could always argue it was witch side mind games so that I could make this exact argument today, but that’s an endless swamp I’d rather not delve into right now.
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Ok, I guess I was hasty with my decision today. I just had a feat of paranoia during which I came up with that reasoning. It’s not faulty reasoning by any means, but it would be hard to get people behind that, so I’m abandoning it. That means that I’m looking for a witch in the pool of people who didn’t vote for akafa. I’ll elaborate on whom I see as most suspicious from that pool later since I’m preparing to go to sleep soon (It’s almost 5 am here, lol) and my head is kind of dizzy.
Change vote: No Vote
To be honest, as a witch, I wouldn’t have voted for Akafa because I would assume the players will suspect that the witches agreed to off Akafa due to suspicion
eh, those two wagons were too either way for that situation to apply.
That’s a perfectly reasonable possibility. There was a fair amount of heat on akafa, which could’ve continued beyond that day. It’s not unthinkable that the witch side sacrificed akafa by voting for him. But as with everything in this game, it remains a possibility.
Worth exploring, though. If we assume the witches did choose to sacrifice akafa, I wonder if you believe they did so early on, or later on? Which would be more suspicious, the people who voted for akafa right away, the people who voted in the middle, or the people who tried to finish things off?
I find that all the people who voted Wonderlander could be suspicious, which is why I’m (personally) considering Eternal for a potential witch.
Eternal has so skilfully slipped by my radar in this game that I’m inclined to agree that he’d make a good suspect.
I understand that you’re in the hot seat and making hasty decisions. I also agree that it’s odd @SleepingPliskin is certain I am a human when many others have voiced suspicion of me. I have doubts about Pliskin. Their tendency to support me seems a bit odd. I suggested some of their reasoning may be valid, and that their ideas helped influence my vote. As I keep saying, identifying who is a “human” isn’t my strategy, so I can’t say the same for them. Mutual trust doesn’t really exist on the game board…
Anyway, your claim that anyone who voted for wonderlander is most suspicious and everyone who DID vote for akafa is not suspicious is wild. You do know it’s highly likely a witch voted for akafa, right?
the middle (3rd or 4th person) tbh. They would set the trend but it’s probably only one witch, with the other voting for Wonderlander
I think you’re potentially human because of your thought process of how this goes, not because I’m certain you are. You still give me weird vibes but it could just be how you are as a person as inherently suspicious, due to how you really doubt my intentions. I would like to believe you’re human but I feel that even if thought you were suspicious, trying to convince people would be counterintuitive
I didn’t say they are not suspicious. I think they are less suspicious though. Do you find it likely that akafa was sacrificed and both of his witch friends voted for him? I think if they did vote for a fellow witch there would be one voting for him max and it’s easier to find a witch in the pool of those who didn’t vote akafa…
Unless Wonder is also a witch, but I’m abandoning that.
Hmm, I’d consider the people at the end more suspicious than the ones in the middle. For a pretty long time, it seemed like the vote was going against Wonderlander (it was even, but EternalMagician had said he’d vote for Wonderlander later), so I could imagine the witch side preferring that outcome if they could get it without getting their hands dirty. It’s the surprise votes that came pretty late in the game that made it impossible to predict how the lynch would turn out, which was the point where I think a witch is the most likely to join in to sacrifice akafa for the cause.
The people at the very beginning seem unlikely to me. It’d seem pointlessly risky when there was a decent movement against Wonderlander.