Rokkenjima Mafia - Game VI [Game Over - Witch Side Victory]

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#841

I think I was going on about a likely possibility of there being a witch in our group the whole day before.

But okay, back to the business. Right now I’m actually considering voting for lobotomyprince the most, although Eternal might make a good target too. It’s possible Pliskin is witch too of course. And don’t forget about midsummer, I think a lot of people were suspicious of him the day before.
I’ll wait for others to voice their opinions before casting my vote, as I usually do.
In case heat turns my way since I’m seeing some people saying that I’m the most suspicious person, I can only say that I’m human, but killing me would be a good enough move for our side, so I wouldn’t blame you if you do. But please consider other possibilities carefully before doing that.

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#842

To comment about the murders, I think the witches have shown variety in their murders. I’m going to exclude Blackrune in this post.
To my recollection, Vyse has not contributed as much as others, but when they spoke, they tended to show more conviction than me, @Usagitenpora, and @sleepingpliskin, the said “discussion leaders”. I’m not sure if I would count @midsummer in this list. I would say they are a medium contributor. @TheSorceress was a much less active player. She started the vote train for Akafa. I will note this quoted line:

This… makes me lessen my suspicion of @wonderlander. But, I don’t want to talk about Wonderlander in this post.

I hadn’t really been paying attention to the vote yesterday. I shot myself in the foot by focussing too much on @Doldod and sticking with my @wonderlander theory, contributing pretty much nothing. I also don’t want to focus on Doldod. Not because I think they are a human, just because it’s more worthwhile to consider other suspects.

I was sick + pissed, sorry guys.

Anyway, the main focus of this post will be @Sleepingpliskin. I’m sorry, you are my number #1, but that’s exactly why I’m suspicious of you! Most every other active poster has been suspicious of me. It strikes me as odd that you continuously defend me. There are times when you suggest others may be correct for thinking I’m a witch, but you don’t seem to take this to heart.

Additionally, when people have brought up lynches which include the active contributors, you tend to always list yourself and me. You also have no issue with saying that you yourself could be a witch, but you often describe me as a likely a human player. We seem to have sort of a similar way of approaching the game (ur good cop, im bad cop). I can’t help if you think aligning yourself with a human (me) is beneficial.

Then again, things seem to have been going south for me since last round, so perhaps that strategy wouldn’t go so well for you if I turned out to be a witch!!!

I’d like to ask for some concrete evidence I am a human now that it is mutually beneficial.

#843

I figure I should address this, since it’s about me.

I would say this is a good line of thought, but it seems too obvious a strategy. Anyone who has been following the thread knows that I’m not too suspicious of “intended targets”. As a witch, I just wouldn’t kill a human who was a leader of my lynch party. This was a conversation we had about Rabla, who turned out to be a human.

This being said, if I was a witch, it might be strategic to go for the same trick twice. I would tell you all the above, and sit in an obvious spot, using Rabla as an example as to why you shouldn’t vote for me.

You all might have arrived at the same thought later on, so I wanted to address it now.

#844

I kinda was suspicious of Vyse as a witch, so I am glad I don’t have to worry about him :stuck_out_tongue:

As for other suspects… I will try to compose my thoughts in some order.

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#845

Wow my idea worked.
Welcome back you three?

I’ll share my thoughts when I can, but I’m kinda busy today.

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#846

To break the tie, because I assumed my idea of voting Doldod would not pass. My point of view was limited to those 3 people because of that “mistake”. But who knows, maybe there really was a witch among them, or maybe it really was Doldod… or someone completely different all together. For now I’ll put in my vote as follows:

Vote: Doldod

#847

Alright let’s get started.

Vote : EternalMagician

For reasons stated above.
(I’m at work right now so I don’t have an incredible amount of time for the game)

#848

The main problem I see right now is that everyone seems to be very divided about the main suspects as evident from the voting last turn and from what I could gather from the posts today:

Muski: Doldod
UsagiTenpura: EternalMagician
EternalMagician: Doldod
Doldod: Lobotomyprince
Lobotomyprince: SleepingPliskin

So if I understood the posts correctly we have 4 different suspects out of 5 people’s posts. That’s… not ideal so I wonder if everyone should post who they consider to be the most suspicious at the moment and explain why so that we have somewhere to start the discussion from?

#849

If you want my so called readings for what it’s worth.

Lower suspicion : Wonderlander, Muski, King, Antra. (people who voted akafa)
Higher suspicion : Lobotomy, Pliskin, Midsummer.
??? : EternalMagician
Special case : Doldod.

Note : I use the term lower and higher as in comparatively lower and higher, meaning the terms are relative to each other.

In the case of doldod, I’ll discuss the issue when I have actual time as I require a lot more words to do so.

In your own case, I notice that ever since I talked about wanting to kill you and then voted against you, it’s made you talk a lot more, so it may be the best way to get a reading on you and thus for now have no reason to move it anywhere else.
It may ironically save you and clear you of most suspicion, that’s what it did last game actually.

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#850

Since when have I defended you? I don’t outright accuse you but that doesn’t mean I trust you. In fact, this post has made me more suspicious of you and tbh, @UsagiTenpura pinning me is pretty damming to me, especially if she’s a witch because I would be a perfect scapegoat due to my bashful decisions.

#851

Change Vote: lobotomyprince

#852

Speaking of which, can you please construct a theory in which I am the active witch please? (you can even use the nepnep text if you so desire)

#853

You’ve defended me a lot… . I can pull quotes.

#854

Or at least, I viewed it as a bit more cordial than people get in mafia, especially if I’m playing on the defensive now. No need to vote for me just because Im turning suspicion onto you. You could always argue back.

#855

Aagh, I’d love to contribute something meaningful but I have a self-inflicted headache and I can’t think straight.

@EternalMagician, during the previous day I asked you to clarify your reason for voting me because I completely failed to comprehend your argument, but I don’t think I ever got a clarification. Mind giving one now?

#856

I had a hunch, but nothing to go on. Very glad I never tried to persecute them just because losing them was not beneficial to us at all.

#857

No, I’m voting for you because your actions are ones I would do as I witch, which is making me paranoid with you

#858

The feeling is mutual… wouldn’t it be ironic if we both ended up to be human?

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#859

I mean, are you serious there? You’re like asking me to point out everything you did that could be interpreted as suspicious? I don’t think it will help your survival, and yet from my pov all I was saying is basically that …

The group of people who haven’t voted akafa (which includes me, btw) are more suspicious than the group of people who voted akafa.

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Not saying that these are definitively suspicious while the other group isn’t

Among that group, the three of you I called “higher suspicion” and clearly said was relative to others (mainly, the people who voted for akafa) have all done things that I think could be interpreted to varying degree as witch behaviour.

Except for Doldod, whom gives me a completely different reading, which I’ll come back to later.

And then finally you have eternalmagician, the super enigma.
Since I have normally pretty much nothing specifically negative as reading about him, I’d normally go after the three of you (pliskin, lobotomy, midsummer) once I settle my mind about the doldod issue, believing at least one of you three is a witch, and perhaps even both. That seems to be pretty good odds.

But since I can’t rule out the matter of EternalMagician being a witch, and that we may end up flailing randomly people who just potentially are particularly skilled at somehow coming accross at suspicious and well if all three of you ends up being human then we are game over.

So, I want to remove the EternalMagician mystery to then judge the three of you with a clearer mind, since we have a lot of material about the three of you (not saying just suspicious one, Im saying the three of you posted a lot and thus we can gather a lot about any of you, and I guess same for myself if you want to include me there). If I’m lucky, eternal is actually a witch. If not, we can at least reason out in peace.

Beside I’m going to spoil the conclusion about Doldod which I’ll explain later :
Currently the only likely scenario in which I can read doldod as being a witch involves his partner being Antra of King, which are both under the low suspicion group, so… I’m sorta feeling like if this is right then it’s worth thinking about a lot, but at the same time I don’t think there is very high odds of that being right as King and Antra have pretty good odds of being human.

Still if you really want me to go gather up all the stuff I can gather up about you, I’ll do so when I get back home in a bunch of hours, but I’d personally rather remove eternal from the equation and then work with what we have and hope I’m lucky and lynch a witch. What do you think about that plan?

Beside to be honest the very idea that you ask me to contrust a theory with you as an active witch when you barely bothered to even give a reason before voting rabla and now lobotomyprince… is not helping your cause imo.
Do you really think no one has any reasons to suspect you right now?

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#860

I’ve been playing pretty badly, after all, or at least, that’s my perception. Persecution complex? Maybe. But I don’t think hounding after exhausted targets like @midsummer, @Doldod, or @Wonderlander is too productive. That being said, I feel really shaky about the way I approached @doldod. Sorry!! It wasn’t great of me :frowning: Same with Wonderlander.