Rokkenjima Secret Oyashiro I [Finished - Progressive Victory]

We could always just vote no on anyone Rabla chooses anyways

CJ, consider Rabla chooses somebody nobody asked for. Chances are high they will be elected. Why?

Itā€™s 5 progressives to 4 radicals. You can bet the 4 radicals will vote YES, which means only one progressive needs to vote YES for it to pass. Thatā€™s very risky.

And Pepe, your argument doesnā€™t counter mine. Youā€™re just saying ā€œWhy didnā€™t you act like this before?ā€ Thatā€™s has nothing to do with whether or not itā€™s the safest option for the progressives right now.

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For all the radicals to vote yes is a very dangerous move. I highly doubt that will happen because it narrows down the amount of people to suspect.

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Leaving it up to Rabla is still avoiding the problem though. For his case, too, I would like him to act in a way that casts the least amount of suspicion on him.

Iā€™ll resign from the nominations, but only on the condition that someone at least a little trustworthy gives their own nomination for Rabla to follow.

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Iā€™ll agree with you this once, Yerian and DaBackpack could have done that, especially since they were the first ever president and chancellor, it wouldā€™ve been risky for them to appear suspicious from the start.

Also @Pepe, Aspiretyā€™s right, your argumentā€™s not sounding so valid anymore, youā€™re clinging hard to an irrelevant fact. If youā€™re a radical and want to make Aspirety look suspicious or something, Iā€™ll be very nice and advise you to use a different strategy. :slight_smile:

Sorry I havenā€™t been around often fam! I was playing on two separate sites which took up my time. After work I might read through everything and solve the game for us.

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Again, youā€™re not factually wrong. I agree with your logic.

I donā€™t agree with your attitude and find it very suspicious. The lack of consistency is what irks me, and if you thought the same way all steps of the way here, I wouldnā€™t be so bothered about it. But I am, and here we are.

For the last time. Rabla is already responsible for a a radical policy, so I have more reason to suspect him that any other president so far. If it were a neutral player who hasnā€™t done anything yet, then by all means, take the risk and weā€™ll see where their allegiance lies. I donā€™t trust Rabla, so that risk is not worthwhile. I take risks, but I wonā€™t play a game Iā€™m convinced Iā€™ll lose. Moreover, I can trust myself, but not Rabla. My approach hasnā€™t changed, thatā€™s your misunderstanding.

I wonā€™t repeat myself again. Go ahead and suspect me if you must.

Could someone else please nominate a candidate? This whole drawn out conversation is pointless if nobody makes a nominationā€¦

I thought it doesnā€™t really matter because Rabla ultimately decides. He hasnā€™t even asked for a nomination. Also I wanted to know from Yerian and dabackpack what policies they got. We know a progressive policy was enacted but how many radical ones were in the mix to begin with?

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Yeah I think this is where we draw the line. I canā€™t be convinced of the trust that you offer (or anyone else, for that matter), so I treat you in the same regard that I treat rabla. Thus I feel that whatever logic applied to the previous round should similarly apply to this round. Itā€™s hard to argue against someone who knows their own allegiance, whereas I am left in the dark.


This is a personal thing, not related to the game, but I believe itā€™ll take a few more days until Rabla sees this topic. So all we can do until then is argue :stuck_out_tongue:

Bravo, re-stating the obvious. I know you donā€™t know my allegiance, and you probably never will. Thatā€™s not what Iā€™m arguing for. Iā€™m explaining that my MO hasnā€™t changed since then.

The same logic applies as did back then. Donā€™t give the suspicious any more power to push an extremist victory, but give the not yet suspicious a chance. We have to decide on SOMEONE, and that priority should go to the least suspicious.

If you suspect me, thatā€™s fine, donā€™t trust me then. But I donā€™t trust Rabla, and I donā€™t think you should either. Thatā€™s why we, the ones suspicious of Rabla, have the right to nominate a candidate for Rabla to decide on.

But if nobody is interested in doing that, then fuck it, let the extremists win~

hi what now

I did originally want to nominate @Pepe to play off my apology but he dropped his character, or @cjlim2007 so he can finally participate outside of voting ā€˜Noā€™ and making his own play, but he finally voted Yes so shrug.

I donā€™t really have any reason to go against the idea of being suggested a Chancellor, since I want to earn some trust back after Eisenā€™s stunt/accident/unfortunate result/whatever. So if you guys want to pick one, Iā€™ll do my best to make sure we can earn back some steps in a positive direction.

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Yes, thatā€™s definitely the best option to regain some trust. But itā€™s apparent that people here donā€™t trust me, so Iā€™ll refrain from nominating anybody myself.

@Aspirety It was a pleasure working with you and Iā€™m glad that everything worked out fine.

Just to confirm what Aspirety said, I got a radical and a progressive policy and I discarded the radical.

Since Rabla is fine with the suggestion that we choose the chancellor, I also want to nominate @DaBackpack. He seems like the most logical choice at this point.

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I donā€™t want rabla to choose yerian or dabackpack because I want dabackpack to choose yerian. (Unless repeat governments arenā€™t allowed. is it allowed @Karifean?) Idk if you guys believe in self nomination or not. If no one wants to Chancellor job Iā€™ll do it. I really want to know where Rabla 's allegiance lies and this will tell meā€¦ Probably. Unless probability is weird. If self nomination is not a thing, you obviously donā€™t want to pick eisen so Iā€™d choose sapphire, i find him more trustworthy than Pepe. I could be wrong though.

Sure they are. The only restriction on governmental candidates is that the president and chancellor of the previously (successfully) elected government cannot be nominated chancellor. Once another vote succeeds, the president and chancellor of the previous government are relieved from being banned from the chancellor position and the president and chancellor of the new government take their place. Though I should clarify, if a vote fails, the president and chancellor of the previous government are not relieved of their chancellor nomination ban. They will remain impossible to be nominated until another government actually succeeds in being elected.

Councilmembers, please, please. You are all thinking about this the wrong way. There are more progressive policies in place than radical. There is no immediate risk. We are winning.

I am slowly developing a mindset and strategy on to maneuver this game. It is not complete yet, but I will give you an immature version: If everything was really as simple as ā€œyou can trust those who implement progressive policies, and you cant trust those who implement radical policiesā€ then this wouldnt even be a game. There are reasons for radicals to want progressive policies, and there are even reasons for progressives to want radical ones.

Im done with all this bickering about such ridiculous bullshit as ā€œwho do we trustā€. We have gained absolutely nothing since the last policy was installed almost two days ago. @Rabla, youā€™re the candidate. Do your job and pick someone.

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Since my days of travelling home delayed this game more than enough already, Iā€™ll go ahead and officially nominate @cjlim2007 after all.

Iā€™d assume heā€™s itching for some influence, anyway.

If you have any problems, feel free to vote No. Iā€™ll have to take one of the suggestions at that point.

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Ooh this is interesting. Also cool 200th post

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