-screaaams- Why does someone as great as I not have enough time to pay attentiooon???
(I stg, i am so sorry for my absence, been juggling around with things to do and barely been having time to say anything)
Anywho, should I be voting for someone trustworthy? Im thinking of usagi, but any suggestion would be nice. That or nuke me, since my unfortunate silence possibly casts suspicions on me. Anyway this is all i can type for now, i’ll check back later.
Well I’m glad of how this turn played out.
This definitively clears up some things at the very least.
I’ve been thinking about something, a proposition of meta of some sort.
When two OTK policies passed, the presidential candidate should be vocal about who they would chose as special candiate in the case they obtain three OTK policies and are thus forced to pass the third one.. While there could be reasonable reasons to change one’s mind on this, they’d definitively have to be voiced as well. It may be very late to introduce this idea tho and we didn’t apply it on StarTurner… but it seems like it could make it easier to know how to trust or distrust a candidate.
Feel free to shoot this down, I remain a newb at this game so I may not have properly thought this out, but at least in this given context it could give additional reason to trust or distrust the candidates we are still overall lacking information on, in particular in your case @PocketyHat. While I remain very glad that you are thinking of me for chancellor, I’d very much appreciate you answering this question.
Indeed, that much is probably a good idea. Though one thing to keep in mind is that the person who you nominated as chancellor -cannot- be the one who you pick as the special candidacy and you also cannot nominate yourself.
Personally the person I think is most trustworthy to get the position if things go unfortunate is @Blackrune. After all, they are the only proven Progressive here, and as a result we definitely wnat someone we -know- we can trust to be picked as the special president. After all, if it were to go to an OTK, they could easily nominate Oyashiro as their Chancellor, and we would immediately lose the game.
Theres also a case for nominating someone else and nuking it if Blackrune isnt picked as chancellor, but that would also waste us a nuke, and if we ended up needing to nuke the next government as well it would put us in the sticky situation of being forced to accept whatever government came next or bite the bullet and take a topdeck, which would be very likely an OTK policy.
Any other ideas? I would like to hear your opinion Usagi.
@Restkastel
Just saying that I’ll have to think about this when being slightly less busy before adding anything else at this point.
In the meantime, very much like you, I’d like to hear other thoughts.
Nope. You can pick whoever you want besides yourself in this game. =P
Well, I have no problem nominating @Blackrune when I’m president next round. So that’s what I’m planning on doing. It’s this round that’s complicated.
I’m a bit inclined to trust @UsagiTenpura and @Wonderlander, if you want my input @PocketyHat. But that’s based off instinct more than anything.
Pick me as chancellor, give me a choice, and if that goes bad then pass special candidacy to akafa.
This tactic isn’t ideal as if we’re both fascists then it could go awfully.
Meh, call it a bias. I just want to be able to prove myself to be trustworthy, and I won’t get that chance once we enter Oyashiro territory.
I’d like to be able to play the game, and I’m very miffed that Rest moaned at me for not noticing an alternate option and then DIDN’T GO FOR THAT OPTION!
GRRRRRRRRRR
Alright, rationality return to me rationality return to me rationality return to me.
Please note that akafa voted me up after finding out I was a King. This is odd, and his excuse “there was no way picto was gonna get voted in so I did it for the lulz” is shifty, as he didn’t mention this reason for voting yes beforehand.
If you think akafa is nuts enough to do that, then whatever, but that could be considered evidence towards us both being Kings.
Alright, there’s your tools. I hope you let me prove myself, I’d love to.
My biases reign supreeeeeeme…
I dont know what to think about @PocketyHat because shes been way too silent for my liking, but I dont know either way since no information on her.
Despite the policy from @Wonderlander I am inclined to not trust them. This has to do with their rather…odd logic for voting yes for Picto and no for me. Again, nothing major there it just niggles at me. Feel free to come tot your own conclusions but I distrust them because of it.
ignoring me
thinking I won’t notice
It’s 5:30am, I’m tired as hell, and can’t really think correctly, so I’ll just say what I got before I pass out. I got 2 OTK policies and 1 progressive, and discarded an OTK policy, which matches what Blackrune said.
Actually here’s I guess what my thoughts leads to right now.
Considering the probabilities of policies with the current deck, it wouldn’t be surprising if 3 OTK policies are picked up anyway. If a single progressive is picked up, the president (whoever gets to be next president) could on their own force an OTK card. Of course, this is essentially the normal situation of most of the game - nothing much change here.
But in this situation I’m basically saying that who gets picked up as special candidate, or even further who ends up as future president altogether, will have a far bigger influence than whoever is picked as next chancellor.
It appears to me that trust toward a special presidential candidate is far more important than trust toward a chancellor. Of course, I’m not saying it’s unimportant but I can’t entirely discard the validity of picking up someone as chancellor on the basic of information gathering, at least if Pocketyhat or whoever the next president would be (most likely thesorceress I guess) is progressive.
Restkastel bought up the dangers of nuking, which is a good point to think about, but that’s sorta always a thing in the end.
TLdr/conclusion : This is the last opportunity to pick up a chancellor on the basis of information (thesorceress, rabla, pictoshark if you feel like gambling) but wether going for that or going with someone trustworthy, the special candidate has to be absolutely trustworthy.
Um. In whoever the next president would be, I mean in the case where pocketyhat gets downvoted, if that wasn’t obvious.
Hm… I’m really cutting it close by trying to answer when I remember, but here are my thoughts:
To answer this keep in mind one thing. I honestly haven’t been paying much attention, so who I’d pick for these would be more of a gut feeling than a logical choice. Having said that, my special candidacy would either be @Blackrune or maybe @UsagiTenpura, though honestly not sure on the latter… again, gut feeling.
Aaaand since I’m president, I still gotta choose who to nominate. I will not choose Picto or akafa, especialy since I don’t wanna dive into a conflict myself. I will not choose thesorceress because they’re the next president and I wouldn’t want to give too much power. And it goes without saying I can’t nominate anyone of the previous government. So that leaves me with @Wonderlander, @Rabla, @Restkastel and @UsagiTenpura as candidates for chancellorship. So it’s either get information on the quiet ones, or get information on the loud ones.
Pros for picking either @Wonderlander or @Rabla:
They’re next in line for presidency, after thesorceress, so if we got any info on then, we could easily see if the government should be downvoted or not.
Pros for picking either @UsagiTenpura or @Restkastel:
They put up a lot of good arguments about picks and the meta and such and have been generally really helpful, and it would help a lot to cement our trust on them. Especially in case that we have sheep who don’t think think and go along with the flow, like me. 
Another thing would be that, in case of either of them being OTK, we can maybe trace back our steps and see everything that they said, to see if they slipped up on anything.
Cons for picking either @Wonderlander or @Rabla:
We don’t have that much information from what they said, so even if we confirm them as either progressive or Kings, we’d be left at that.
Cons for picking either @UsagiTenpura or @Restkastel:
By picking them, we probably no longer have a chance to investigate the quiet ones properly without the fear of one of them being Oyashiro. This con also applies to above as well in vice versa.
Need I remind everyone that I am following my own gut (and I just woke up) so my arguments aren’t flawless.
So in my opinion, I would like to check on the loud ones. So lemme just flip a coin. Heads for Rest, Tails for Usagi.
flips coin
lands on tails
welp.
I wooould give more time to discuss, buuut I’ll just go ahead and nominate now since I’ve been a baka and forgetting about this game way too often. Nuke me if I’m really really wrong about this choice and thought process.
I nominate @UsagiTenpura
Voting Phase
@UsagiTenpura @Blackrune @akafa123 @PictoShark @Restkastel @StarTurner @PocketyHat @thesorceress @Wonderlander @Rabla
Since our presidential candidate has chosen a chancellor, it’s time for everyone to vote.
President: PocketyHat
Chancellor: UsagiTenpura
Do you trust these two to represent you and the entire village of Hinamizawa and enact a policy on your behalf? You have 23 more hours to get your votes in.
Well, the president spot is currently very far away from anyone I see as somewhat trustworthy. I’d rather see it get back to the top sooner rather than later. Makes me kind of tempted to nuke this one, to be honest.
I am curious as to why you are so inclined to go along with Rest’s reasoning as to why I am not trustworthy Blackrune. Though if I am right and you are Oyashiro, I shouldn’t be wondering. 
Personally, since I have a very strong feeling we can trust Usagi and we aren’t quite in Oyashiro time, I will be voting yes here. I tend to reserve my nukes for when they are very necessary, and well, in this case if we were to nuke this government we end up on Sorceress, who is frankly equally unproven and quiet, so its about the same.
A forced Prog policy really doesnt mean much at all when it comes to determining trust, that is for sure. I don’t distrust @thesorceress per se, I just don’t have any reason to trust them either, which falls in the same boat as @PocketyHat. So I don’t see a reason for nuking one but not the other.
And if we do nuke them both, then I at least would be uncomfortable with who the next president would be, as it would be @Wonderlander. They have made intimations that they believe that I am an OTK, and that @Blackrune is Oyashiro when I know for sure that neither is true. This, of course, makes me suspect them, and I would really rather not be forced into a position where we have to elect them or face a topdeck with this proportion of OTKs to Progressives, as the chances of getting an OTK policy would be at 75%.
Personally, if there happens to be an unfortunate OTK policy here, I would recommend you pick @Blackrune for the candidacy. I know they are truly Progressive, and I dont think it would be wise to give too much power to one person by having Usagi be the chancellor and then the Special Candidate.
I of course do not think that it should go to either @akafa123 or @pictoshark as they are involved in a conflict and this special president has to be trustworthy. Furthermore, we cannot put anyone we cannot be sure of their loyalties into the special president seat, such as @thesorceress.
You yourself cannot be nominated as a matter of course.
@Rabla was involved in only a single OTK policy and has not been talking much, which is a bit suspicious in my book.
@Wonderlander seems like a bad pick to me because they are trying to claim things that I know are blatantly untrue.
Which leaves myself or @Blackrune. Personally, while I would be honored to have your trust, I can understand why someone might have some doubts, and as such I think that it is wiser to pick @Blackrune.
As for @StarTurner, well while he passed a Prog, hes been quiet so hes less of a good choice than @Blackrune, I can see somewhat a case having been made for it I dont think it is appropriate considering that the Special Candidate has to be absolutely trustworthy.
@Blackrune is probably a safer choice than me, and I’ve only been president, so I don’t really have much of a form of proof for my trust. Seeing as what is likely left in the deck, voting yes is probably fine, as delaying things into possibly untrustworthy players isn’t the best idea.