I will add that all things considered, it’s very unlikely that wonderlander is lying.
For them to be lying, that would mean that they received two progressive policies.
That gives two scenarios :
Three progressive policies were picked, and both wonderlander and blackrune lied. That both are randomly Grumpy Old Men combined with getting 3 progressive policies have like less than 0.002% of happening randomly. Even so, it’d be odd to have blackrune not lying about the one he discarded while getting into wonderlander’s lie. Probabilities too low for it to occur.
Two progressive policies were picked, Blackrune passed both to Wonderlander, who then decided to lie saying he discarded a GOM policy, and Blackrune not only went on with the lie, but lied back in return to balance out the number of cards having been played. That is just very bizarre and random gameplay, and as thus I think 1) is actually more likely, while being extremely unlikely.
So, basically, I’m going to believe what wonderlander said.
BTW I am voting no. I am progressive, I trust @Blackrune, and I believe one of the first duo at least is a progressive, possibly two. Therefore the chances of akafa and Rabla being progressive is 50% at most. Now I know that isn’t a good reason, but neither of them gives enough reason to vote yes for them. Maybe they could change my mind?
And, while the tactic of +7 has worked so far, I propose we switch it up a bit. Yes it might be unfair to those who didn’t get elected, but it is about winning, not fairness.
Well I’m still going to still vote yes.
Tho I’m not against switching the +7 rule eventually, I’d like a good reason to change it before doing so, which I do not think we have right now.
I was really tempted to just force it with two progressives again, but then we’d still have been left with little information.
I admit that with 4 policies out this early, it was a bit of a greedy move. In the case of a grump policy I’d both have known that Wonderlander was someone I couldn’t trust and gotten an investigation of someone. If I’d just forced a progressive, we would have learned nothing about the chancellor again, and then possibly have lots of plausible “whoops I drew 3 grumpy policies” following that with little information gained about anyone. (granted, that part may still be what awaits us anyway)
Regarding whether I actually discarded what I said, it’s understandable to find it a bit doubtful since drawing two progressive policies was somewhat unlikely if two if them were gone already. Not really sure how to convince you there, it’s what happened.
Also, since you’re curious, my grump policy text was:
“To ensure easy identification during emergencies, lolis are henceforth required to wear maid uniforms while at school.”
I’m not sure whether to trust these next ones, but there isn’t really anyone else (that could be elected right now) to trust either. I don’t think there’s a pressing need to change it up just yet, but in the future we may have to consider skipping some to get the president spot to travel to the now slightly more trustworthy players more quickly.
That’s fair. I’m probably going to come around to that way of thinking but I want to see how the vote goes first. It’s going to sway my opinion one way or the other.
In all honesty tho I’m more wondering about Rabla’s quietness.
It’s not like we have much info to trust or distrust anyone, but after some thoughts I’ve concluded that yeah Blackrune is most likely telling the truth as well about what he picked up and discarded. Obviously that doesn’t make him nor Wonderlander necessarily progressive, because this is a complex game (and there’s also the uglier matter that an Oyashiro would often go out of their ways to act progressive), but yeah I do think there’s good chances we fall on Grumpy Old Men governments who have currently golden opportunities to pretend to have obtained 3 GOP policies, so I’m switching more or less to a "when in doubt shoot him (or her when applicable). I deeply apologize if this is unwarranted, but while I may not know very much about this game, it seems we progressive have been put in a rather touchy situation to have 4 progressive policies played in two turns.
I’d actually welcome suggestions as to how we progressive should be acting in this less than ideal scenario.
Also I have this odd sense that the next government is also going to claim to have gotten two progressive policies. I’m going to suspect Karifean himself to be a grumpy old man if this indeed occur.
Gather round, members of the council! The government has made their choice, a new policy has been enacted!
“From henceforth, the Grumpy Old Men will be referred to as the One True Kings, and no further changes to this name intended to slander them will be permitted from the rest of this council’s hearing.”
Well now isn’t that haughty. Certainly a One True Kings policy.
Privilege Phase
@akafa123, you now have the obligation of making use of your privilege of Investigation. Choose another player by stating their name in bold; you will be privately informed of their alignment. If you happen to choose Oyashiro, you will not be told that they are Oyashiro but instead just that they are One True King-aligned. You have 24 hours to make your choice.
Can I just say how awkward it feels to have four One True Kings?
