As far as I know it, the entire Rosatrice theory arose originally due to the artwork of a manga cover which showed visual similarities between Rosa and Beato, which is really not much to base a theory on…
To give credit where credit is due though, the Rosatrice theory is ridiculously well constructed.
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Gohda was hired to create a lot of tomato sauce.
No one ever saw any murders properly because they all have bad eyesight and refuses to wear glasses. The Ushiromiya family is known to be stubborn.
All death are actually faked and done with a creative use of tomato sauce. The seven stakes are actually creative meatballs.
The red truth is only tomato sauce tainted.
No one ever recognized that Kanon = Shannon = Beatrice because they have bad eyesight.
George is the only one who has good eyesight, but it’s a family thing to be blind as a bat so they forced glasses on him to equalize things.
Blind as a bat = This is why this is a sound novel
The fantasy scenes exist because Gohda also needing glasses messed up his recipes and caused food poisoning in people.
“Love” is a codeword for glasses. Without glasses it can’t be seen.
I apparently can’t find the comic again, but I remember reading a comic that was basically everyone solving the epitaph (much like in arc 7TP) and deciding to all go to Hawaii but Eva insisted that she was the one who solved it and was now the heir so taking their shares they left her behind with the gold and headship and told her to take care of Ange while everyone was on a cruise boat heading to Hawaii.
It featured Bernkastel at the end telling Ange that she never knew giving people a miracle could be so much fun with Ange telling her to shut up.
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This isn’t anything reasonable, just a thought I had right at the beginning of ch.5:
Since Beato had become completely unresponsive and when Battler helped her drink the tea, I speculated that years ago he had caused an accident where Beato had become severely impaired. I thought the shackle on her ankle represented her disability to walk and the fantasy world was her way of expressing her dreams through imagination since she couldn’t talk. The servants and everyone else had participated in this dream of hers and constructed the murder mystery trying to bring her enjoyment and Battler was the only one refusing to play his role because he didn’t understand/remember the accident that had been partly his fault. I don’t think Asumu’s cause of death had been revealed at this point so I thought she might’ve died in this accident as well and that would’ve contributed to Battler’s ignorance/memory loss/trauma. This accident would’ve also been the cause for his fear of vehicles.
This theory made me so depressed I had to stop reading for a while. Maybe it’s funny that I resumed after thinking that it’d be priceless if this turned out to be true, but also part of Beato’s trolling plan. Back then I still wanted the two of them to continue their game endlessly while loving, hating and tearing each other to pieces.
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Okay a stupider theory, but one that is hard to deny
After all the Ushiromiya family is one that faked people being dead to mess up with a girl who nearly drowned mere hours ago even tho she’s a bitch (Erika in arc6).
This is factual.
What kind of family is the Ushiromiya family?
So my theory now is that everyone put “roles” (such as, victim of the first twilight, or milf who gets to wave a gun around while screaming at people) on pieces of paper in a box and had everyone picking up a role.
Then they enacted a very elaborate fake murder scheme.
The reason why the story cuts off at midnight after october 5 is because after that Battler figures it out. “What the hell is wrong with you people”.
He decides his crazy family needs to be obliterated for the good of everyone else.
He sets up the bomb, tries to run away using the backdoor (Kuwadorian). Eva tried to follow him but he escaped first.
BOOOM
The seagulls became fried. UminekoTempura.
A family of crazy people who’d fake death to mess up with girls who nearly drowned hours ago was removed from being a danger to everyone else.
Happy ending.
Also I forgot to add this, but Yasu is completely innocent. Even the Shkanontrice playing multiple roles at once thing was forced on her by others. That’s why Battler tried to save her alone (from his crazy family) but she still felt guilty about participating even if against her own will.
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Krauss, at one point, mentioned having invested in a resort complex that utterly failed.
That resort was actually Jurassic Park. Velociraptors snuck onto Krauss’ boat and started breeding on Rokkenjima. Since it’s fact that velociraptors are clever girls, all the locked room murders were actually done by velociraptors, who can unlock locked doors. The end.
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I present to you: The Fall theory… I guess this joke theory still contains references up to EP8: Remember Battler screaming that he’ll fall during the plane and boat ride? In Rokkenjima Prime he did fall off Kawabata’s modded boat. In response Yasu said “fuck it” and flipped the switch. Ange couldn’t believe how stupid this is and prompty offed herself after reading that. Without love, you cannot see the passion for fast boats.
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Wow, I’ve known and laughed thanks to the Gohda copypasta for years and never knew you were the author. I’m amazed because your joke video about the logic error is also one of the most hilarious things I’ve ever read about Umineko. Thanks for the awesome theories.
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Well I do appreciate and believe in the true theory, but, just for fun, I wanted to think up of some other theory that I could call my own, but I haven’t really rechecked the red truths so see if it’s possible, but oh well!
My theory was that, while Sayo (possibly only Shannon) is still the main culprit, most of the murders were committed by other people for their own benefit or for some other emotional reason. Like, Shannon’s motivation just caused a chain reaction of events and thought processes for the rest of the family members, and at some point or another, every family member had the chance to commit the murders (Except for Battler of course). Like for example in the first game, assuming that Shannon and Kanon were different people, Eva and Hideyoshi killed the people for the first twilight, maybe to just kill off the competition for the money and to kill off Shannon, because they didn’t want George to be with her, assuming that they knew about it, and then Kanon killed them in the second twilight because he felt angry towards the pair because they killed Shannon, and etc etc. Of course in some parts this may sound similar to the truth, but y’know, was a little thing I thought of inspired by one of Agatha Christie’s books.
And again, I haven’t checked any of the red truths on this matter, so it probably would have tons of flaws.
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Hello everyone, this is my first post in this section. Of course, I have my own theory as well;) But first a reply to PocketyHat, since I don’t want to just brush your theory aside.
I know I’m new, but if you allow: for this theory my reply would be that, while it is probably possible, there need to be hints for that following the rule that every hint for a crime must be given. We would need for example some conversation where it’s clear that Kanon knows who the muderers of the first twilight were. For now, I think that we’d need more hints. If you have them though, I’d be happy to discuss it 
It was mostly a theory I thought of for fun, but I don’t think I have time to actually develop them with full detail, so I just leave them be as my own personal theory. And for this I’m just going by logic and logical emotional responses, and besides, most people in the island have reasons to kill one another, especially since some people seem to be easily bribed on the solutions of every episodes of the question arc. Buuut again, I’m a not person who wants to focus on it anyway, but if anyone wants to develop this theory, go ahead, I’m just lazy and don’t have time to reread umineko again yet. And again, I support the true theory anyway, I just wanted to have something fun for myself, 'cause hey, the catbox has endless possibilities 
Alright then;)
Hello everyone,
a while ago, I posted here my own little theory about Umineko. Since this became too extensive (needed to edit stuff etc.), I deleted it. But I am still searching for someone who might help me out. So is there anyone who still wants to think about the story beyond the Sayo explanation? In return, I will show you a certain something, proof that there is another solution 
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not my original theory, but I liked the one where there was actually a tunnel underneath rokkenjima to the main land. this allowed a lot of things such as making bodies disappear and letting more people actually be in the island but they just quickly got “out” of the island so the red of the number of people was still valid.
the basis for it came when someone looked at some of the fines and noticed something like windows with blinking lights, kinda like when a train passes through a tunnel.
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Well I definitively do have my own thoughts concerning the truth that violently opposes some of the accepted truth, tho I’m not very sure I could really help anyone else ^^;; feel free to try tho?
This is an excellent challenge. I’ll craft one immediately. I’ll even fix anything that violates the Red with new Faker truths then the Fake truth Im about to create.
Lets see. The Ange Culprit Theory.
As someone once pointed out the “real truth” has a big flaw in that if the message bottles of the future were written in advance and Ange was excluded in the stories even though she only did not attend the conference due to sudden illness. This is why the true culprit is Ange, the true author of the message bottles.
You think a 6 yr old couldnt possibly be the culprit? Your right, because she was 4 when she planned it. (For those who might know, this scenario is largely inspired by an MTTH500 event from Crusader Kings 2. A newborn child turns out to be THE DEMON CHILD. (S)He then attracts several witch servants and then proceeds to kill every other heir to the throne and your main character to finally take the crown)
At the age of 4, its hard to find servants, but fortunately Ange has a lonely and superstitious cousin. After earning her trust and joining Mariage Sorciere, she meets another lonely soul; Beatrice. At first she simply used them as playmates and scapegoats for her evil (but childish) pranks. However by chance, during her usual eve-dropping to find weaknesses, she overheard a drunk and repentant Kinzo admit to a horrendous crime.
skeletons of the most accessable family members; her parents. Eventually Rudolf let slip that secret of Battler, putting another Ace in her hand. As her skills and tactics grew she eventually pieced together the incident 17 years past through loosened lips of the elderly and the tired.
Her hand now stacked, she only needed an opportunity. And it came in the form of an Epitaph.
Using her information she turned the witch into her furniture, crushing the all hope with the knowledge that even after 1000 years there could be no HUMAN FUTURE for the witch.
She subtly guilt tripped an old servant into helping the Witch recover the gold. All the gold and honor in the golden land could not repair a destroyed heart, so the witch remained a puppet to Ange. Using the one-ring puppet and taking hold of the financial failures of the son and the guild of the wife, Ange became the true ruler of Rokkenjima.
Having gained sufficient power, Ange planned to manipulate from the shadows and ascend after reaching adulthood. However after 2 years, news of the unexpected return of her elder contender breathed a sliver of hope into her puppet, which began to resist her control. She knew it was time to abandon this Beatrice.
First she broke her foolish cousin with mere words. The seeds of malice were not planted by mere negligent innocence (This clue was given in the story even!). This hatred and despair would be harvested into a weapon.
Then she contemplated multiple scenarios to use her puppets and assets to elimate the heirs contending her throne. Although it would be ideal if everyone else died, the hungry Sumedera’s was a threat that could not be ignored. Even with her evil intellect, that fact that she was 6 would be too disadvantagous; she needed a new puppet. After careful consideration, she chose her new Beatrice, Eva.
As to what happened on Oct 4-6. EP 7 - Bernkastel “This is all the truth”
Having rigged the switch in the Goldenland to activate regardless of what happened, Ange erased the Ushiromiya family and all the evidence. Her mother played the part she manipulated her to and in return a desperate and ever loyal Aunt was born. However Ange wanted Eva’s intellect and drive to expand her empire until her eventual ascension, without wasted energy on motherly love. So like the predecessor Beatrice, she broke her, and all it took was to reject a hug and convienently have 2 dirty bottles stuffed with conflicting lies “accidently” discovered.
While successfully creating a powerful autonomous servant, Ange unfortunately became a victim of her manipulations. For a time, she would be forced to eat mud. To endure this she continously reminded herself of her own Greed and spoke to it. Her hosts here would eventually die in a series of bizarre murders, however that is another tale.
Eventually she reached adulthood and promptly returned to claim her crown. With a few drops of poison, she secretly murdered her puppet, whom had also acted as a strawman to absorb hatred of those whom bled to feed Ange’s coffers so none would be directed towards her. With the gold, the ring and the title of Golden Witch, she only would need to finish her maternal relations.
Thus she lured them into a trap on that island that day. After cleaning up all lose ends, she decided that ruling from the shadows was best and arranged for one of Eva’s servants to be her puppet.
Before the tale could close however, a threat in the form of Hachijo Tohya forgeries remained. The possibility that the old Beatrice betrayed her caused her to grind her teeth night after night. Eventually she found the Tohya and invited him to the goldenland, where he would never return from…
The End
Ange satisfies Knox’s first as she is mentioned within the first few minutes of the game.(Take that Dlanor)
No trick is needed for the EP3 red where Evatrice removes everyone from the suspect list if ANGE was the culprit
All conventional solutions can still apply with an ANGE mastermind
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The art of crafting a Rokkenjima theory is all at once a difficult, painful and pointless one. I’m not going to let you stamp all over one of my art forms of choice.
You barely address the episodes at all. Need I remind you that even if Erika joins the people on the island “There are 17 people”?
So just to be clear, your Ange culprit theory pins Ange as the culprit without her being on the island in Episodes 1 through 6 by making her be the mastermind manipulating people into doing the murders?
You say “Take that Dlanor” but yet the murder doll in question can easily strike down your entire theory with a single oft spoken sentence:
So come. Tell us. What are the clues toward Ange being the mastermind?
Well my clue is quite simple.
Lambdadelta: …Yes. …Golden truth, effective. The gold truth…can only be used by the territory lord of this world…no. …only by the Game Master himself!!
…and Ange somehow uses Golden truth in EP8 without a “I now understand everything scene”.
Since Ange is not shown acquiring this knowledge, she must already possess it.
Thus Ange can most certainly be the author of two games where the author knew apriori that Ange would be absent.
With just the ability of Ange to use Golden Truth, I can fabricate a lie of this level. What do you think everyone?
Ep 6. The Gold Truth is also used in Ep 6.