Fire Emblem General

I know that archers were great in Fates, that’s why I said several games, not all games. You forgot Mozu, who I like to describe as “Takumi without his special bow”, although I guess that’s through reclassing.

Fatigue was in FE 5 if I remember correctly, right? I guess it makes a lot of sense in a game with a traversable world map. But that’s amazing then, I’m looking forward to it.

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We’ve got a new trailer!


I’m liking what I see so far, but those maps and Catria’s new design look awful.
Also, now that skills are in the game, what was the point of reemerging strength and magic?
*Looks at original Gaiden maps*

https://i.imgur.com/VlgSsHo.jpg

It’s an improvement.

Uhh, as someone who doesn’t speak Japanese and could only guesstimate from the images thanks to that, what part of that trailer tells you that skills are in the game?

I think you can find it around 3:36 mark.

Yeah…I am still sitting with Fates unfinished. It and heroes are still the only Fire Emblem games I’ve played. I love Heroes, and while I consider my time with Fates (specifically Birthright) positive the story is such garbage it is still unfinished.

I might try Conquest but at this point I wonder if I am better off cycling back to Awakening or checking out Echoes when it comes out - though with the current mix of games I am probably better off pondering this question later. Persona 5 will be my all next week.

Mfw the scene where Lilith dies

If it helps, the previews so far look very promising. Maybe the story will even be PoR tier.

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The live-reaction that was edited into the following video sums it up pretty well. Also you might want to use spoilers there, like I just did. As the video suggests, there are spoilers, although not in the thumbnail, so I can still post it the normal way.

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Oh I’ve seen that video, Ghast is pretty funny.
Though I’d argue that her death is more stupid in Birthright. Like, Azura and Ryoma are right next to Corrin, and yet when not!Callech attacks, its Lilith that sacrifices herself?!

We got some new info~
Character designs: http://imgur.com/a/iJPpg
Music: https://www.youtube.com/user/MasterEnex/videos

Video that summarizes everything:

I was wondering, what do you guys think of Walhart from Awakening?
Personally, I think he’s overrated considering his rage against the gods has no coherent background. Aside from Grima, all the other gods inspire mankind to be good and do good things. What’s the harm in that?

Was a big part of Walhart’s character his rage against gods? I always thought Walhart’s character consisted mostly of him thinking he was so great and powerful that he wished to unite the entire world under his rule. Wasn’t that his primary motivation, or am I missing something?

What I mean is that in Awakening, there is little to no evidence that people are suffering because of religious strife or tyranny of the gods. Walharts motivations are told not shown to us. Aside from Grima, there are no evil gods or corrupt religions so Walharts motivations make zero sense. If this was Tellius, I might be inclined to agree with him more.
And even then I’d argue his ideology is ridiculous and is little more than a 16 year old’s idea of a “nuanced” villain. It doesn’t help that Walhart is an incredible hypocrite and is baby’s first Ubermensch.
Edit: I was wondering, what were you guy’s pairings for Awakening and Fates?

Has anyone participated in the Fire Emblem Heroes Voting Gauntlets? The nt one running now is a lot more fun then they have been now that they give any team that slips into losing status a 3x point boost for a limited time. I started on Team Leo (I have a low opinion of Fates, but it is still the only one I have played properly) though for the finals I am Team Tharja because Robin must be destroyed.

You. The enemy.
I support Robin because this waifu menace has to finally be stopped.
(but yeah the new system is a lot better. Way less one-sided stomps.)

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How does it feel to be on the side of evil?

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I’ll take it over being on the side of a pretentious shounen-boy. Robin was my very last choice out of the initial mages. I shall continue to fight valiantly for Lady Tharja.

So as of yesterday, I have now started Arc 3 of Fire Emblem Echoes and am about to face that Paladin boss on Alm route and Grieth on Celica´s route, and I thought I´d give my impressions of the game so far.
Its good. The maps are the absolute worst part and I seriously have to wonder why IS thought it would be a good idea to recreate the Gaiden maps 1:1-that was the worst decision they ever made aside from creating Revelation.

The cast of characters are enjoyable. I wouldn´t exactly call them good as many of them aren´t developed enough-this is possibly a side effect of supports being neutered and the base convos (although good) not as thorough as the Tellius games. However, the cast does feel very realistic and organic (if a bit cliche), which is a huge plus-good examples of this are Kliff and Leon.

Part of my gripe with Fates/Awakening characters was that they had quirks instead of traits, the Echoes characters feel a lot more distinct, but as I said earlier they need a bit more depth and development in order to be fully realized and human. Its a good start though as I always felt Fire Emblem needed more human characters. Its never going to be Ryukishi quality but I still want it to be better.

The storytelling is competent. Nothing that would win awards but its still rather well written. However, I feel like Echoes´ storytelling is brought down by the amount of jrpg cliches that plague its writing. Its leaps and bounds better than Awakening and Fates, but in order for Echoes´ grand story to fully be realized, it needs to drop those cliches and be a bit more ambitious as well as build up certain scenes a lot better as the execution can be a bit on the weak side at times. The scene where Alm and Celica fight is a good example of this as Celicaś ideals aren´t explored enough in the second arc-or at the very least, its a poor introduction to what she believes in.

Overall I´m having a good time playing Echoes.

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And here are my current squad members-I don’t want to clutter up my previous post:
Values go from HP/ATK/Skill/Speed/Luck/Defense/Resistance/Movement
Alm- 33/12/12/10/7/5/5
Tobin (Archer)-31/11/8/6/6/4/4
Gray (Mercenary)-30/13/9/3/7/2/4
Kliff (Mage)-30/10/4/11/11/9/8/4
Faye (Pegasus Knight)-23/10/4/11/8/6/7
Lukas (Knight)-34/16/7/5/4/13/2/4
Silque (Cleric)-24/12/5/6/8/11/4
Clair (Pegasus Knight)-22/10/6/11/12/4/8/7
Clive (Cavalier)-26/12/7/6/7/1/7
Forsyth (Soldier)-26/12/4/5/3/8/5/5
Python just died RIP

Celica-22/14/11/9/11/6/7/4
Saber (Myrmidon)-31/12/13/16/10/7/6/5
Mae (Mage)-22/17/5/10/10/7/11/4
Boey (Mage)-24/13/9/9/11/6/7/4
Genny (about to promote to Saint)-21/14/9/10/11/1/14/4
Valbar (Knight)-34/14/6/3/2/14/1/4
Leon (Sniper)-31/13/11/8/8/6/1/5
Kamui (Myrmidon)-31/12/12/16/2/8/2/5
Atlas (Cavalier)-31/15/4/6/4/5/4/7
Palla (Pegasus Knight)-28/12/9/10/4/6/5/7
Catria (Pegasus Knight-24/11/12/12/12/5/9/7

How’s it looking so far?

It sounds like I would be better served playing Echos than circling back to Awakening then? For the next time I decide to pick up a full Fire Emblem game that is.