Mafia Under the Clear Sky(Game Over)

I just got back home and the phase is over now? Dang.

The girl’s corpse was strewn across the clearing, the victim of a last-minute rampage of violence. Her scythe was nearby, the blade jammed into the ground.

Your captor flew over to it, pulling it out. It seemed larger than it had been in the girl’s hands before.

“I apologize, you were all so close, but well…” She held the scythe wide, and the blade seemed wide enough to cut across the entire album. Then, effortlessly, she reaped.

_Two people were left standing, somehow unaffected. Your captor took a step forward, a dark circle beginning to form around each of their feet.

“I suppose I should congratulate you, but I’d rather just have you out of my sight. I have a feast to attend to. Til next time.” She made a small curtsy, then turned away.

The darkness began to rise, enveloping their bodies. Once all was covered, it disappeared just as quickly as it came. All that was left was a number of corpses, a frustrated woman, and the unending blue sky.

Blackrune, Kirika Akatsuki, the Witch Idol, and Vanilla Townie was killed Day Three.

With no ways to prevent a night kill, and the mafia guaranteed an additional kill the next day, the town has no way of winning and loses.

VyseGolbez, Yasaborou Shimogamou, the Idiot Tanuki and Town Vanilla Cop was endgamed.
Wonderlander, Rui Ninomiya, the Witch of Revolution and Vanilla Townie was endgamed.
Antra, La Pucelle, the Witch with a Giant Sword and Vanilla Townie was endgamed.

Karifean, Marisa Kirisame, the Ordinary Witch and Vengeful Mafioso has won Mafia Under the Clear Sky.
Honeycomb, Yayaka, the Witch of Pure Illusion and Vengeful Mafioso has won Mafia Under the Clear Sky.

Denouement to come, but people may speak now.

Aw, called early? I guess it has gotten impossible to avert.

Holy fuck that was a tense final day though.

Hmm, so each Mafia lynch would have caused a Town death? Well, @HoneyComb slipped my radar anyway, so it would have been your win anyway. Good game.

I’m just glad it’s all over now…

Speaking of which, if you don’t mind, properly introduce yourself, will you?

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Yeah, I’ll do that. This was pretty fun on my end I hope the same can be said for everyone else.

I was prepared to go another and night and day and see if we both me and Karifean would survive or if it would just end up being one of us, but it was called early. I’m a little glad it was called though because this last day was extremely stressful.

I really thought you might have suspected me because I was weirdly pushing that no vote so hard.

That no vote totally would have worked against me though by giving you another day, but I couldn’t really explain that without revealing myself.

Again, a lot of fun, thanks for having me you guys.

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Don’t mind my slurred sentences, I’m lacking in sleep

gg to all here!

So each mafia lynch causes a town death, AND the entire mafia would still win if one fell but others stayed up enough to end the game?
That’s kinda crazy…to be honest I would judge the mafia as a bit overpowered but I’ll wait for the records of truth before that.

Called honey being a mafia just because the game was going in a direction I hadn’t seen before and I’d seen all the other player’s strategies before, hence he was probably a big player. That and lack of powerful abilities made me believe he was a minority (a Mafia member).

I would’ve killed Honeycomb that day but I doubt I would’ve suspected Kari due to my twisted style of logic - though to be honest someone else could’ve just as easily pushed him under the bus, I don’t think that would’ve happened due to what happened considering how quick-witted he sometimes is.

So were the mafia given a kill or did one of them have a kill ability? If the latter is the case I reckon this game was well-balanced. If not then…well I guess we can wait and see when the full truth comes out but for now I think this game was quite one-sided and not because people were outplayed or anything.

If it makes you guys feel better, I thought it was Blackrune too.

Good job witches! They almost got you, but alas…

@Karifean! Did you think I was the doctor? I assumed that was why you axed me. @HoneyComb, very good job you flew super under the radar.

I said witches. I meant mafias. This game has messed up my vocabulary.

Well, good game!
You certainly earned the victory for surviving that last day.

There were two possible protections in the game, that’s where the balance probably comes in. A shame that we lost that night 1.

Many thanks @Contessa for hosting! It was awesome having a less crazy game for a change and I’m definitely interested in joining any of your future games if you feel like hosting again~

Yep! Well I didn’t know if you were the doctor or some other power role, it’s just your way of asking for potential targets for power roles was highly suspect to me, since you usually don’t ask that =P

@King_Titanite_XV Our abilities were a factional night kill, a factional one-shot roleblock and a single revenge kill.

oh wow ok then
remind me to not show up for these games again, there was basically no chance of winning there
if both teams played bad, witches win, obviously because information doesn’t go round well
if both teams played well, too bad, roleblock on protects so witches win again even if you get one of them as revenge kills a townie letting witches push for game
if both teams play PERFECTLY, then town has a chance unless the witches shoot the doctor, in which case witches win AGAIN

am i being stupid here? like i was siding with the witches in my head wanting a cool play to happen and loved the Vyse VS Kari move there, thinking Vyse might be using a witchside ability to know that considering the precise nature of their bullets so far, but this has totally flipped my opinion on the subject

if it was non factional and on players, I still think it would be hard for the townies to win unless the witches were incompetent

someone please explain to me this? i know i haven’t played a proper mafia in a while (mafia 4 doesn’t count since i was fucked in the head so mafia 3 was the last regular game i played) but this seems SO one sided

I made three big mistakes in this game.

(1) Assuming there would be a lynch on Day One. I talked about this in the dead chat, but the No Lynch Day One is a common fallacy that propogated from epicmafia years ago and seems to be in most mafia communities now. It’s bad, don’t do it people. The simple line is “You miss 100% of shots you don’t take”, the town’s primary way of ending the game is by lynching–unless there’s a very dire pressing reason, even lynching someone randomly is better than doing nothing. Power roles are a perk, not the main way of winning the game, never forget that. I designed the setup around the idea that there’d be an even number of players each day(baring doc saves, which give a +1 to the day count, and the vengekill, which would put things even permanently). With the no lynch on day one, that was thrown out the window and the game became immensely scum-sided.

(2) Forgetting terminology and conventions. Friendly Neighbor(for example) is a very common role where I play that would have been immediately town-confirmed day two with zero doubt. Other things like Witch/Mafia, etc etc, all play into this as well. I’ll endeavor to fit in better next game I design here.

(3) I forgot to add the LyLo clause to the Vengeful clause of the mafia. Usually, these abilities turn off if the game is in a LyLo situation but I just blanked out and forgot to add that.

That all being said, the setup(scrubbed of flavor, as I said the flavor was literally off-the-cuff and random) was as follows.

2x Vengeful Mafiosos+factional 1-shot roleblock
vs
Town Friendly Neighbor
Town 2-shot Doctor
Town Vanilla Cop(Vengeful does count as a power role, so this was intended to catch all the scum)
5x Vanilla Townies

So, the town gets one protective role, one confirmed town, and one quasi-investigative role(which Vyse played very well by the way!). The roleblock was a fail-safe in case we got into a “protect the cop” situation that often happens, and the Vengeful kill was to put the game back to odd numbers.

Of note, only the first vengeful kill mattered. The town win condition was killing all mafia, while the mafia wincon involved having at least one person alive. The situation that happened here(going into LyLo with both mafia alive in an odd day with X/X-1 alive) was the absolute worst case scenario. I was worried going into day three that this would happen, but I knew Vyse had the soft guilty on Kari, which almost panned out. I’m surprised by that actually–with the Friendly Neighbor already revealed, a 1-S cop+vanilla cop would seem to me to be way too much. But, alas.

Anyways, I had fun moderating this game and being a cold-hearted cannibal, so there’s that. I hope everyone involved had fun as well, despite how the game ended up playing out.

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It seems you have me all figured out. I hope you’re able to play next time King Titanite

Rokkenjima Mafia meta yay~ The addition of the narrative in the mainline games really is a game-changer as you gain more than enough information to make up for foregoing the first lynch. And while I agree that it’s typically better to lynch than not in games with few power roles (which to be fair we haven’t had in a while on here) the LyLo over MyLo argument isn’t without its merits.

Also scumhunting isn’t much of a thing on here yet. No 900 post long Day 1s with people posting reads and claiming and baiting and slipping up constantly. That sort of thing takes a while to establish itself~

I’m rather curious about the dead chat. How were things over there?

Quiet, there was some activity on the last day but it wasn’t particularly notable. They didn’t know who to side between you and Vyse, although they leaned towards you.

Also god I hope we don’t get to 900+ long days. There are massive diminishing returns on posts vs content over time, at some point it just becomes impossible to wade through and hurts the town. I’m the type of person who would gladly roll a dice and lynch that person day 1 though with no thought to alignment or composition though.

well can’t guarantee anything, ive been through a VERY tough time…
that and to be honest i don’t want another game to occur until the tea party is done
Oi @Aspirety, come in here to plug the tea party!