Rokkenjima Mafia - Game II [Game Over - Human Side Victory]

HOW DID I FORGET TO ADDRESS THIS

The shocking improvement in his competency is suspicious.

I mean, it’s helpful, but weird. I can think of a perfectly mundane reason, why it happened, but can YOU tell us what happened @Wonderlander?

Because being inept and fading into the background and being clever and pushing new ideas forward are classic witch disguise tactics.

It isn’t out of the question that a rookie witch might switch between them half way through a game.

I fell asleep for a few hours and all of this happened? (and sorry for not voting, forgot to check what time the Twilight would start in my area and fell asleep).

@PocketyHat Um…
…Maybe there are three older men?
Can someone argue here with me? Since my brain is going into roadblocks about this.

I think that it’s just a bit of word confusion. From the results of the first Twilight we can identify several different characters, a young man, a servant (probably the same as the old servant mentioned later), a girl, an older man, a lady, a man in white, another older man (the killer) and a young girl (Usagi).

Based upon the descriptions then this would mean that I, if I am actually the detective as I claim, that I’m also described as an older man since I used my Detective ability to investigate @pictoshark who claim to be George (the young man).

I will think about who to use my ability on during work (I’m currently leaning towards the ones that has so far been quiet in case there is a witch hiding within that group) but please put foward your suggestions and I’ll consider them.

I agree with looking up somebody quiet. I think of the two witches, one of them is quiet and one of them is being active, though that is strictly my gut speaking of course. :stuck_out_tongue:

Well I have a perfectly mundane reason. There wasn’t much to be competent in last round? I mean. There really wasn’t. And I don’t think I ever let myself fade into the background tbh. I always posted something.

And about Reg… Fuck indeed. Damn you @Karifean and your nice way of talking. :slight_smile: I sincerely hope you are a human coz if you are a witch then we lost. :frowning:

@Aspirety

Alright! In an attempt to reorient myself after this very sad Daylight and in the unlikely possibility I could be killed this is evening (seriously, I’m a dead woman walking why kill me, though I can predict the whims of witches), I went and reread literally everything in this thread. And rereading has added a bit of…perspective. I have decided to make a list of the most important things we know about each person in the general order of less to more suspicious.

  1. @EternalMagician. Supposedly Hideoyshi Ushiromiya and our detective in this game. I believe him, if mostly by the virtue that I don’t want to believe our game master would lie to our faces, which I’m pretty certain they could have if the post he wrote about the rule break was true.

  2. @PocketyHat: Supported @pictoshark’s reveal everything strategy, which seems like it would be risky for a witch. Offers opinions but not many suggestions and does not attempt to lead the group, which makes be believe they are more likely a human, but I may only be saying this because we have little information on them at this point.

  3. @pictoshark. Supposedly George Ushiromiya and our switched. @pictoshark talks and reveals so much at such a consistent basis I would find it difficult to believe that they are a witch and I find it difficult that the real switcher would not have come forward at this point to tell us they are lying. Is most likely a human, even if some of their decisions are ones I would consider suspicious, I think they are being made for the best interest of the group.

  4. @Necem. We know…very little. They claimed they wanted to lay low early in the thread and they have stuck to that since. They are actually the first to suggest voting randomly during the first Daylight, though @Wonderlander was the first to take actual action. I am not certain if that makes them less or more suspicious. I would put them higher up, though I think a witch might want more to do with the proceedings than they have had. Suggests for everyone to keep their roles hidden, especially the protector. Attempted to convince everyone not to vote for @Aspirety in the second Daylight.

  5. @Wonderlander. Supposedly Jessica Ushiromiya and a human with no abilities. Cops to this rather quickly after @pictoshark claims to be the switcher, which makes them a bit less suspicious in my mind than @Pepe but grows rather more suspicious through their actions throughout the rest of the second Daylight. Is the first person to vote for No Desth in this first Daylight. Is the first to question our voting for @Aspirety. Is the first to change vote from @Aspirety to @RegNewmont

6 @Pepe. Refuses to share their role at a point in time when it would most certainly have been wise to, in order to invalidate or validate @Wonderlander’s identity. If they had not done this, they would be much higher on the list, as they have done little suspicious. Is the first person to suggest lynching @Aspirety, which I cannot yet tell is a suspicious move or not.

  1. @Aspirety. I still feel that they are lying about their role, a belief that is shared by many on this forum, though several seem to believe they are the protector. Has been around very little for the entire second Daylight, so I have very little information to go on. This placement is purely by gut feeling and little else.

  2. @Karifean. Voted for cjlim2007 who ended up dying during the first nighttime. Is the first to vote for RegNewmount. While I’m trying to not hold anyone’s voting record against them, Karifean has targeted both dead humans at this point. Also cast suspicion on everyone who voted for @Aspirety and convinced people to change their votes at that point. I find their actions suspicious and is my number one choice for witch at the moment.

N/A. @SuperM. Has done basically nothing. I can say nothing about their role or anything about them at this point in time.

Alright, that’s a wrap. I hope this is alright. Please don’t kill me witches. Let’s have a nice Nighttime.

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@Aspirety is supposed to be 7 and @Karifean is supposed to be 8 I don’t know what happened to the formatting.

Well looks like I came in before I could affect anything. Looks like RegNewmont is dead now, for reasons I don’t understand either…

To defend myself, the only reason I suggested voting for aspirety was because he both claimed to be vanilla and was suspicious. If he were lying about his role, then that makes him more likely t be a witch.

However it did not cross my mind that he could be a protector. That would have beena risk I would not be willing to take. I won’t push this discussion further, since it’d vindict aspirety’s role even further

For now, I guess it’s time to wait for the end of the twilight. Anything you guys want to discuss with me (or others?)

you forgot the dot on 6.

Hmm it just hit me although I forgot about it after my previous blunder; is there really no Roleblock this round? Well I guess it’s still best to assume there is until we have more reason to doubt it.

Either way regarding night turns, @EternalMagician you can pick whoever you want to, and though I’d like to say pick me so these suspicions surrounding me can be cleared up it might be a better idea to try and identify a witch. Then again if the general distrust for me is as high as thesorceress’s I guess for you the two might be synonymous. My own suggestion for someone to check is Necem, I’d be glad to know if they are on our side or not.

Just saying, I voted Karifean originally. I changed my vote to RegNewmont from Karifean, not Aspirety. :slight_smile:

Ugh, I knew it, I knew we shouldn’t have lynched him…
…Although, I noticed something.
Yes, when @cjlim2007 was killed, the only lead we have is that Karifean voted for them.
But also, they were one of the ones who talked in the previous Twilight Phase…
Granted this Twilight Phase has more activity, but… I don’t know, something I decided to point out.

Btw @pictoshark, I don’t expect or want you to openly respond to this, but here’s some food for thought: while you should obviously keep your targets a secret, if you plan on making a protective switch it’s probably the best idea to pick someone you distrust or find suspicious as your second target. If the witches really end up targeting the one you’re switching they might end up hitting one of their own. And it even doubles as a way of getting info on the one you find suspicious during the next writeup. And hey now that I’ve said it out loud maybe the possibility of hitting their own kind dissuades the witches. Dem mind games.

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Right! Sorry, I tried to double check everything but some things slipped by me.

Having been thinking about it throughout the day and reading through all messages again I decided to follow @thesorceress thesorceress lead and make a list over which level of suspicion they viewed the other players with over being the Witches.

From lowest to highest level of suspicion:

  1. @pictoshark : I have confirmed him to be human.

  2. @Aspirety : While he did lie about his role he seems to have had very good reasons for it for reasons explained several times earlier. Has been very silent as of late though.

These are the ones I’m the most sure of (though that might change later on) with the next
group being suspected due to rather flimsy evidence that can probably be easily argued
against.

3: @Karifean:
While it is suspect that he voted for cjlim2007 making it seem like he was marking the target remember that the Witches knows each other’s identities and are allowed to PM each other. First voting for cjlim2007 before killing them wouldn’t make that much sense for a witch as it would just be a huge, unnecessary, hint when they have other ways to keep contact.
Though he was also the first one to vote for RegNewmount…

4: @Wonderlander/@Pepe:
I put these two together because they both argue the same thing, that they were the Lady/Servant being switched during the first twilight with Wonderlander. While we have no absolute proof of this no one else has claimed their parts nor contradicted this event making them somewhat trustworthy to me.

5: @ thesorceress:
No direct proof since we can’t confirm that they really are who they say they are but since @cjlim2007/Usagi was an Another World Aligned Stressed Servant and since which we knows nothing about their goal it feels like it would be a lot of work to come up with such a goal in such a short time once the results was in.

And then finally the ones who I’m the least sure of and so suspect the most. Not exactly because of anything they have said but because they have provided very little information about themselves so far (with SuperM stating that they are on vacation and being very silent throughout the game). Of course there might be reasons for this but until we learn more I suggest keeping an eye on them…

6: @Necem, @PocketyHat, @SuperM

What do you say everyone? Does this sound possible or have I missed something vital?

Why are the last three at higher suspicion than Aspi?

Just curious

Because based on Aspi’s statement then he is Battler which is one of the only two persons, that we know of, who fits the description of being the man in white. And while there might be a reason for the one
playing Nanjo to keep quiet no one has yet claimed the part making me inclined to believe Aspi.
Though thinking about it a bit more I might push him down a notch as we still haven’t confirmed his role…

yes but I wouldn’t really call Battler a man.

To me man refers to, over 20?

18/19 is still a “young man” which in my eyes is totally different.

Meh, I guess you could be right.

Also, incase you don’t understand, Nanjo may bot be among our cast. He could be, but he might not be.

I was also thinking about that but the same would also apply to the description of my piece as an “older man”, especially since Nanjo seems to be older than Hideyoshi (and I’m aware that Nanjo might not be a part of this game).

That’s why, while I’m less certain about it than I was when I wrote that part, I’m still inclined to believe Aspi as the description of the Man in White seems to be just wordplay.

Plus wouldn’t this put @Wonderlander’s claim to being Jessica, and being switched during the first Twilight, into question as, while Jessica isn’t an adult, I wouldn’t say that she’s an young girl?

Then again, all of our postulating here assumes the competence of our glorious host, something I have rather major doubts towards.

So, there’s that.

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Well yeah, there’s that.

So let’s just wait until dawn and see what has happened during the night and if there’s anything we can figure out through that.