Rokkenjima Mafia - Game IV [Game Over - Human Side Victory]

Agreed. Letting such a heinous culprit leave this Island, perfect crime or not, is just…(shudders)

That being said, I don’t believe we have much information to work with,other than the body. And I’m not too confident in using RNG tactics to weed out witches. Therefore, I will formally cast down my vote for now.

Vote: No Death

Such a gruesome ending to such a young life… Truly, it is tragic. She shall be mourned.

And dear Rose, while I agree with your tactics about not lynching somebody based on a dice roll, we still shouldn’t be too hasty to put our votes immediately. I believe we still have about 40 hours. Let’s calm down and gather everybody’s testimonies first okay?

Ahhhhhh, that was a good sleep!

From what the servants have informed me I believe that this “Rose” woman has the right idea, and I think we should delay matters by watching to see what the others do.

You never win in Poker (in the log run) by telling everyone your hand as soon as you get it after all!

Therefore, I will be voting for No Death, and I encourage others to do the same.

Vote: No Death

Oh look. Rokkenjima glitch, I’m going to be modkilled.

Perhaps No Death really is the best solution for this first day. What does everyone else think? Play it safe?

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With so little information to go with… I’m also of the belief that No Death is the best option for today… for if we were to strike down an innocent person… would that make us any better than the culprit?

Vote: No Death

For once we are of the same mind sis. I also suggest that we play it safe and vote No Death.

Seems the people are already quickly pushing for a vote! What happened to waiting and seeing?

Not that I can offer any plausible alternative right now… We don’t have a lot to go off. But this does seem like the least fun outcome. Nobody wants to be the one to point the finger at another? Feels like we’re not making any progress.

Oh trust me, I’m aware this isn’t fun. But unless we have someone to poke at there’s no real point taking the risk.

For now,

Vote: No Death

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If we were in a situation where everyone of us were incompetent, then there would be an argument to make to trust a random bullet. As you guys don’t strike me as incompetent, though, I am also aggreeing with no death. However, I am not going to formally put my vote down quite yet.


…Oh, there seem to be quite a great deal of you here! I hope we can get along well…Though I am not too pleased with whoever ruined the mood here.
If I come across as a bit heartless, I do apologise. I’ve been around a lot of violence recently and I guess I’m a bit jaded…
I hope you can let me make myself at home here. I’ve had a small amount of experience with this before and I can agree with @MAFIA_Kinzo that no one is more suspicious than anyone else.

Except from me, I’m never suspicious at all! Stop looking at me like that.
I hope we can get on and weed out this criminal quickly so we can get to know each other soon.
For now I’m reluctant to do it, as I do have an attachment to you moreso than many other people, but it is the best idea to Vote: No Death for now, so I’ll follow suit.
All we have to do is hope the killer either holds back to bide time, or they make a mistake…
Unless this was all a mistake to begin with? Whoever you are, perpetrator, if it was an accident, please come forward and explain yourself! We can get along if that is the case!

…silence. I thought so…

Interesting that you put it this way. Saying this kind of sentence so openly always begs the question if it isn’t done purposefully to get rid of any mistrust. However, that same line of thought can of course be applied the other way around as well, so really it isn’t much of a reasoning. What I am trying to say is I can’t take that sentence at face value and still look at you with the sme suspicion as I look to everyone else, and I understand that everyone else harbors similar suspicions towards me, and there isn’t really much I can do about that right now.

Whatever glitch you are talking about, I wasn’t aware of it and still see you as Kinzo, so I would hate to see one of us die because of a glitch in the Matrix, so to speak. If you refer to your colored text, well, everyone can use orange text, so I don’t see a problem there.

In fact, let me use some colorful text to put some assumptions down. As they’re assumptions, I feel blue is a better choice for them, though:

1. Everyone claims to be innocent.
2. There is at least one among us who is lying.
3. There are several massively different strategies this liar or group of liars could be following.
4. Therefore, it is almost impossible to already catch one of the culprits with our current information.

That is why I am now also putting down my vote:

Vote: No Death

It won’t activate until the half-time check, but please note we are Vote away from Majority.

If anyone has questions worth asking, it’s time to do it.

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How many witches do you think are in this game? Unlike the previous games, there are 13 people involved with this game. Has the witch count gone to four or is it still three?

Since the win-condition for the witches has changed somewhat I’d guess there are at least 4 witches in play this time (since they have to get down to 1 human this time).

I doubt that there are 4 witches. In any game with 10 players there have always been 2 witches, not 3. Let’s look at it as percentages: 20% of the players being witches was considered balanced whereas 30% was considered unbalanced. In a 12 player game, there were 3 witches, making 25% of the players witches. From that we can conclude that 30% is unbalanced, 25% is. So let’s look at the two possibilities for 13 players: 3 witches would be 23% of the players, definitely in the realm of the other two, but 4 witches would be 30% at the start, something that is considered unbalanced as I just concluded. This is why I think this game has 3 witches. (For reference, 2 witches would be 15%, probably a percentage too much in favor with the human side)

Actually, @MAFIA_Mion is raising a good point. The change in the win condition really means one of three things: One, it could just be there to have the game running longer, which is unlikely. Two, it could mean that it’s harder for witches to kill someone. Three, it could mean that one of the humans possesses the ability to kill at night as well.

Options 2 and 3 both make it possible that in one given day-night-cycle the typical number of 2 deaths changes, in option 2 it would change to 1 death and in option 3 it would change to 3 deaths, and both changes are in a theoretical favor for the humans.

The change in win condition is strange, I have to admit. It sounds like there’s a possibility the witches can die each night…which is something we definitely shouldn’t forget.
Though it should be very obvious when a witch dies, unless an ability prevents that.
Actually I recall a post from our game master saying about “roles being different this time”. This isn’t referring to our identities as if was in that same post (I think? Someone please confirm this). I would say the new condition and the new roles are linked.

Anyway, somehow I forgot about majority. Dont ask how.
So I’ll swap to Vote: No Vote, and see how things go from here. Thanks for pointing that out

Apologies for the double post

OOC
In regards to the glitch, I’d guess a few of us have discovered something about @MAFIA_Kinzo and I believe it would be most fair for everyone to know. Though I’ll leave that up to our host as to whether that is shared or not. @MAFIA_Beatrice if you don’t know what I’m talking about please PM me on rokken on my main and anon account and I’ll let you know.

You all saw nothing.

We will continue as is.

I will also Vote: No Death

…still, is this okay? I mean, if we don’t apprehend the killer(s) ASAP, we’re just prolonging their twisted murder spree. But I guess it’s better to send one sheep for the slaughter than possibly send two.
Teeee, heee, hee.

I am inclined to believe @MAFIA_Gabriel’s reasoning about 3 witches more, but I still would not be surprised if we had 4 witches.

About the new win condition for the witches, doesn’t the fact that they have to kill more people mean it would be easier for them to kill? If they had more people to kill + it being made harder for them to kill just makes me think it is unfair. Unless I misunderstood you somehow and you meant something else. Can you clarify a bit more @MAFIA_Gabriel?

Also, now that everybody has spoken, I think we should wait until Halftime to see if anybody else has anything to say, then invoke majority.