Rokkenjima Mafia - Game VI [Game Over - Witch Side Victory]

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#381

Not sure what to make of King. It seems like they aren’t too invested in the round all things considered.

Rabla seemed like an obvious suspect last game. Pushing for a lynch of discussion leaders seems a bit too risky right now from a their point of view. It would be near suicidal if they were a witch.

As @thesorceress pointed out earlier, the fixation on Rabla isn’t productive right now. Someone mentioned (can’t recall who, Usagi or perhaps midsummer) the reason why the more active players have been spared could be because witches are leading us by the nose.

#382

Not other than the basic “voting for Blackrune and piecing out” thing, but that argument is applicable to a few other people as well.

#383

Hmm, of those five already voted for, for me akafa and midsummer are most suspicious, whereas Wonderlander and King are least suspicious. Sorceress is the big unknown in the middle for me. So of those two, I’d rather go with akafa.

Vote: akafa123

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#384

I do want to believe that @Rabla was being used as a lynch target all things considered. That soon fell apart because it may have been baseless. The living people who voted for Rabla at any time were @wonderlander and @midsummer . Wonderlander claimed they were influenced by Midsummer’s early vote. Midsummer has certainly garnered a lot of attention.

I find Wonderlander’s position to be weird. Having your name on a vote where 2/3rds of those human voters were killed makes their name stand out. I don’t like it. Does any one want to comment?

#385

To be honest, @Wonderlander is either two things, an obvious witch that meant to be hit, or a human who just happened to be a good scapegoat. I’m more inclined to see it as him being a witch tbh as his actions seem deliberate by how little he’s posted

#386

The thing about Wonderlander is he’s infamously bad at coming across as a human even when he is a human. It’s really hard to get vibes from him. Both of those possibilities seem entirely likely.

You’re entirely right though it’s possible he’s a witch.

#387

Wonderlander has a track record of being a crazy enigma where no-one can actually tell if he’s a iffy Witch or a misleading Human.

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#388

All of us who played The Head’s Ring can attest to that.

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#389

Oh, almighty Vyse! I, the poor peasant - Akafa, bow down before you and ask for forgiveness. Oh, If I only had the key to unlock the plateau of your humble heart and prolong my existence in this game! :mii:

#390

This was exactly my line of thinking. I have had a sneaking suspicion Midsummer and other witches may have been setting Wonderlander up to take a lynch. Tho I hesitate to lynch @Midsummer even though I am wary. Not to be Machiavellian, but losing a human Midsummer would not be good. People have pointed out that Wonderlander is playing on the defensive and not putting much out. I apologize, Wonderlander, but if you weigh the consequences and consider the track record testimony, I think it may be a decent vote. Perhaps we can do better.

I don’t know if you should be so certain. You don’t even suspect me or Usagi? You say in a previous post that Wonderlander is not putting much out, yet accuse them of “leading the narrative”. It’s confusing.

Can you explain this change of heart?

#391

ok, the leading the narrative was mostly referring to @midsummer. And to be honest, I would say it’s also @SleepingPliskin, @UsagiTenpura, @lobotomyprince, and @thesorceress. So a witch is possibly among us five. @Wonderlander is mostly because of his defensiveness but lack of input. A lack of input was a strategy of mine when I was a witch. So no, I’m not certain. Under other circumstances, you would be the top of my list to be honest. Gives me too much Sapphire vibes

#392

@SleepingPliskin
Jeez, first game and I’m already being profiled.
Hum. I’m gathering Sapphire may have been a good witch. If so, I’m flattered, but since you suspect me early on I must not be living up to expectations. If they aren’t a good witch, there’s not much I can say about that because evidently I’m not playing too well as a human.

Oh well. I’m not going to waste time begging you to accept me as a human because I’m not sure how to respond to a claim that I resemble someone too much. It’s definitely not purposeful, and it’s not like we’re swapping strats or anything. :disappointed::disappointed: :disappointed:

Maybe a good excuse is that I’m trying to toot my own horn without a lot of experience? Idk haha.

Anyway back 2 business…
Thanks for addressing that concern. I was thrown off by how firmly you were pressing for the Midsummer and Wonderland vote, but a few of us were already thinking along those lines. I have already said why I suspect them. I’m leaning towards a Wonderlander vote.

Who else is a suspect? Afka has votes, but I can’t really get behind that right now with the current reasoning. Maybe in the next round something might present itself.

I covered all of my queries. I don’t have much else to say unless it regards my play style, even then I’m not sure how to answer. I have a really… opinionated personality, so I apologize if I sound too cocky.

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#393

I didn’t mean to sound accusatory. Despite the vibes, you give decent insight regardless. And this is mafia, so it’s fine to be suspicious lol. And don’t worry, I’m also really opinionated :slight_smile:

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#394

I’m back for an hour or so.

Things have progressed, which is nice, but returning to find oneself under fire is less nice. So, I suppose it is time for me to defend myself some more.

Right now, it seems all suspicion thrown my way stems from a single thought, that I was leading the discussion in day one, and that is both suspicious in and of itself, especially because a human died, and it should’ve made me a nightkill target since I was such an active human side player. However, I feel like people are overestimating my accomplishments.

If you look at what I actually achieved on day one, the result is… pretty much nothing. I reasoned that Rabla is a good target in the absence of strong witch reads, and people joined in that enough for Rabla to be the individual with the highest amount of votes. However, about an hour before the deadline, I reconsidered my stance and retracted my idea, switching my vote for the number two lynchee, AMF. At the time I did this, Rabla had 4 votes, and AMF had 2. Blackrune directly stated that he voted for Rabla because of me. If we remove my influence from the voting process entirely, Rabla and AMF both have two votes. Since AMF said he voted to increase the pressure on Rabla, you could even argue that Rabla would have only one vote, Wonderlander’s.

So, ultimately I changed basically nothing. I certainly didn’t build the AMF train. At one point, I said AMF was the least suspicious of the three main lynch targets we had at the time. The reason why I changed my vote for AMF instead of someone else was because AMF already had the largest lynch train if Rabla wasn’t taken into account, and they weren’t someone I was particularly opposed to lynching.

So, where exactly is this discussion-leading contribution of mine that paints me as a possible witch or a danger to the witch side if human? I was pretty active, sure, giving some opinions on things here and there, but going by post count, I had the fourth greatest number of posts. I wasn’t even in the top three. I was among the most active players, but is it really fair to elevate me above the rest in that regard, considering how little my contributions ultimately ended up mattering, as I basically undid everything I had built in the last hour of the day?

#395

Well I just came back home and I’m feverish.
I’d have a lot to say but it will take me time to write this coherently and I may rest a bit before attempting to do so.

Sorry about my inactivity but … well… life in short.

I may be about to write the longest post I ever wrote tho…

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#396

Heh it’s nothing personal. I don’t take things too harshly during games.

#397

thank you but don’t over work yourself :frowning:

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#398

How much time do we have on the clock?

#399

About 20 hours.

#400

Woah, I go out to visit possible unis then go out with friends and bam I am suspected. I mean, I kinda don’t get why I am. I started the Rabla train to get him to talk, and when he didn’t, I kept my vote on him, though I stated other possible candidates as well. And I usually don’t talk unless prompted because last time I did that EVERYBODY suspected me. And I analyze good, but I don’t put them to words well. I think that is the main reason I get suspected a lot.

Anyways, I don’t think the people who directly vote for me are witches because I would be so easy to frame and get lynched. When the jig was up they would be suspected first. But I don’t have many witch reads. I suspect lobotomyprince because he subtly opposed me but let SleepingPli take the lead. But that could mean anything. At least the fact I am suspected probably means I won’t die at night. Guess everything has a good side.

And I didn’t get influenced by midsummer to vote on Rabla? I voted first? And I kinda find it suspicious how the people who voted for Rabla yesterday are the main ones getting suspected. Just look back and think. What changed? It isn’t like we actually voted Rabla off and he is human. So, try to get the bigger picture. I am bad at doing that so you guys do it for me? :slight_smile: