Rokkenjima Mafia - Game VII [Game Over - Human Victory]

It’s been about 100 posts or so and people keep comparing this game to the Lovers from “Recollection of a Mafia Game”

WHY?

I have more Faith in Rabla than to put something so stupid in this game. I think Vyse actually admitted it wasn’t the best of ideas in that game, because of their immunity to detective meaning the only way the humans could win was to listen to and trust a witch team member outing them.

I’m going to go there guys. **The Lovers game is a bad example of a mafia game specifically because it was imbalanced, because the person making it had no prior experience being a game master. Our game master here,** though he can’t count, can host good games. He wouldn’t put something like that in the game. Hence it’s a bad comparison to compare this game to the Lovers game.

Ok now that’s out of my head I might be able to think properly.

It seems Zepfur is done though I still think they’re a human…well whatever, I’ll go for a lynch after I clear my head and have one last think. See if I missed anything, y’know…

FORMATTING AHHHH

"Geez, King. You’re such a hipster contrarian. What are you? A post-completion boss that appears in Yukiko’s dungeon? Nyahahaha.

Seriously, though. If anyone has any idea why I’d be up to all this if I’m a vanilla human, I’m all ears.

…Not actually, though. I’m more fur and tail and eyes and stuff. But figuratively."

The cat thinks things through.

“Also, if you could kill and send some kinda fish to hell after me for a treat. That’d be cool.”

“Rabla is a great GM, therefore pictoshark can’t lie about his claim”

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“It is rather suspicious that they decided to lynch me so quickly… Why it’s almost like they’re a witch!”

I’m not going to be online for tomorrow, so I’m voting beforehand.
Vote: @FlareNetworkC
Why? Because he voted for me! :yum:

“Okay, I need sleep. Someone wake me when I’m dead…”

The cat yawns and falls into a pleasant sleep, curled up on Akafa’s head.

There’s been a lot of accusations thrown around, but the only thing that seems to stick is that Picto is part of a 3rd party. I don’t trust that any 3rd part’s goal would be aligned with that of the rest of us humans, so…

Vote: Pictoshark

There are two people I could vote for right now: one bring pictoshark and the other being someone that I suspect is a witch.

Tell me, group, which should I go for.

Pictoshark, because he ignored me… :mii:

I’d also suggest picto but that depends on who you suspect being a witch and why you do that.

With 22 hours to go, the votes stand at;

pictoshark - 3 (Zepfur,UsagiTenpura, BunnyAdvocate)
akafa123 - 1 (FlareNetworkC)
Zepfur - 2 (VyseGolbez, pictoshark)
FlareNetworkC - (akafa123)

Remember that Majority Rule is invoked at 6.

…before I do anything, do you know something the rest of us don’t, Usagi?

. . .

On what grounds? As an example the witch hunter team in game V was aligned with the humans.

The initial pre-ramble explicitly refers to harmony and discord multiple times, perhaps that was supposed to allude between the human team’s choice between fighting with their allies or working with them?

It did seem to be rather important.

On what grounds? As an example the witch hunter team in game V was aligned with the humans.

I’m not much interested in what happened in earlier games, it only muddies the water.

Yeah I just don’t trust Zepfur. It could be his playstyle as a human, but just asking people to lynch him isn’t productive and won’t help later. He claims vanilla human but it sure feels like he’s hiding something. At least we wouldn’t lose an important role if this went poorly. Credits to him to actually make me suspect Jester though.

Vote: Zepfur

For picto, I feel like he’ll slip up sooner or later if he’s not on our side, so we basically have him pinned down. He might be a risk if left alive but at the very least I don’t think he’s part of a sole witch team, so as long as he chooses somewhat reasonable targets he’s an extra chance to hit a witch.
I still suspect akafa as his partner, but if we go after those it makes more sense to just straight up go after picto.

I need to bring this up to you now.

This third party team is probably not against both humans and witches. They’re definitely not against humans solely, that’s for sure. Because that would be a dumb game, where the witches have at least 3 members and get 2 kills every night…

Also I thought we said “If there are 2 kills, we are all good” and well yeah, that happened. There were 2 kills. What’s the issue here? Are you assuming there’s a 2 man team that needs to kill everyone to win or something? What’s their advantages then? We saw Blackrune with his team of solely himself and he had to capture witch team members - that was pretty cool.

The only way I could see this being balanced and stuff is if there aren’t any abilities that are on the human team or something - that way the azure team killing everyone is pretty fair. Still, right now we have a second lynch from their team. Sure, they can flip round and disobey us, and what happens then? A swift exit from the game, courtesy of the morning lynch.

And you seem to have learnt something that we don’t know, considering your response to pictp asking you to elaborate on how he killed Kari.
Please reveal this, either to me or Rabla, as otherwise I’m worried the game’s integrity has been broken because you heard something from Kari, or because you got some other sort of info from either Picto or his squadmate.

Except that time thesorceress was in the bunny team on game 2, but let’s just not count that because you guys want to ignore it!

As for “I’m not interested in early games” then in that case let’s assume every time we lynch a witch they become a human and a human becomes a witch, making the game impossible, because there’s no precedent for that to not be the case, right?

We need to look back at other games, see what’s going on there. I’m going to have another look at the nighttime writeup, since that’s what has won the game for the human team every time.
To be honest if the witches get worried this 3rd party is tricking the human team, they can just shoot at Picto. That simple! It’ll save us the time shooting him later if you guys turn out to be right!

Here’s the thing. The human team wins the game in the daytime (unless we have a powerplay game like game 3, though the witches considered that game a bit unfair so I doubt Rabla will do it again) They lynch witches. We need our 2 lynches we currently have, ESPECIALLY since if we target someone and Picto refuses to kill them, we have found 2 enemies (Pictoshark and whoever we instructed him to attack).

Also I don’t trust Zepfur, akafa, Usagi or Bunny right now, because they’ve either HEAVILY disagreed with me or they’ve RPed to hell and back which is a cute way to try to get trust without doing anything.

Also blackrune could be Pictoshark’s sidekick because he has swept in and voted Zepfur, but that’s just a small theory guys.
Anyway…

Vote: Zepfur

Because it isn’t invoking majority rule yet and I might forget.

I don’t know anything I shouldn’t know concerning the game setup, but I can read change in policies and make simple guesses based on that considering the various timings that revolved around this.

In other words if you’re asking me if I’m voting against pictoshark based on knowing information about his character I shouldn’t have, then I do not have them.

I don’t mind at all if Rabla wants to talk to me.


In any case leaving that aside, your argument is kinda what I wish pictoshark had tried to get into. This is what we should be talking about, wondering what kind of setup we’re in and try to make deductions at this point based on what kind of balance it is we’re dealing with.

Still not changing my vote tho, at least not for zepfur whom I think is just uncaring about the game and while I understand the argument about them not being a big loss I think anyone seeking witches and believe in pictoshark’s story should look at more serious leads. This just sorta look like to me like zepfur is an easy target that either humans but also possibly witches are trying to get killed.

But hey who knows, I also somehow am going to guess that they wouldn’t act very differently if they were a witch so if this is really your best bet, go for it.

I’m voting Zepfur not because I read them as a witch, but because they seem to expect their death or something. Who knows,.Maybe they’re a Tragedy Looper (plz no Rabla)

Oops. My idiot self thought the dayphase ended 24 hours earlier than it actually does. So, imma change my vote, because I did some thinking and I realized that I’m not getting a witch read from Akafa at all. Plus, he’s being very entertaining.

Instead, I’m going back to Vote: Pictoshark

If he’s dead, we really don’t have to worry about his intentions or his game mechanics, do we?