Rokkenjima Secret Oyashiro I [Finished - Progressive Victory]

And THAT is why I voted yes.

You guys just dont get it, do you. I tried to explain, but apparently it wasnt enough.

You’re so focused on “trust” that you are completely ignoring the majority of the strategy of this game. You will surely lose if you continue to think this way.

Pepe, you seem to be the only one willing to work this out sensibly. Im glad to finally see you as part of this policy making. I hope you will make a good choice.

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Also, I dont know why that was a reply to that post, sorry @Aspirety

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So we already have 3 progressive policies, why don’t we just vote no on Pepe, let dabackpack choose yerian, and me choose rabla? It locks the people we think are good into the same pairings so even if it fails, they can’t blame a third person for passing the radical policy. If you need clarification I’ll be happy to give it to you.

I have no nomination, I’ll let Pepe decide for himself and vote from there.

what

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Well now… While I definitely mulled over the possibility, and I even calculated the probabilities of CJ receiving a progressive policy, I’m still honestly surprised by the turn-of-events of this! I guess the negative mood towards rabla’s government was getting to me, albeit subconsciously…

Well now! Going back to what I was saying, in my opinion, this shows that cj has a preeeetty high chance of being a progressive here. There is the chance that rabla pushed two progressive policies to him, or that he is still a radical pushing progressive policies for reasons, but I feel that him being genuinely progressive is a higher chance than these possibilities. Higher so than the previous governments being progressive! Oh on that note @Rabla and @cjlim2007 if it’s not too much to ask for, what policies did you get, and which did you discard?


Now then, as I should have expected, but took a sideline because of mulling over too much on the last round, I guess it’s my turn to enact a policy! Since my goal is to obtain information on the other players, I’d like to push my previous nomination of @Sapphire as my chancellor. Since he has yet to participate in any of the games, I’d like to gauge his allegiance by having him make some decisions at this point.

Please note that this isn’t an official nomination yet. I wanna hear what you guys think, and if there aren’t much violent reactions to it, then I’ll make my decision final. Will hopefully do it within 24 hours from now~

I got one radical and one progressive and enacted the progressive one

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No objections.

Since there’s 9 people in this game and at the beginning, karifean said that there will be 1 or two more progressives than radicals. We can deduce that there are 5 progressives and 4 radicals in this game. If we say that 5/6 of the people who passed progressive policies are progressive, then why should we introduce new people into the government?

Because we can’t conclude with certainty that everybody who passed a progressive policy is trustworthy. This has never been the case.

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To follow up on @Pepe’s inquiry, I recieved 2 Radical and 1 Progressive policy. Discarded a Radical, so as CJ said, he got one of each.

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I’m just wondering, what if Eisen and Rabla both were good but their draws just happened to be 3 radical policies? That could explain why Eisen voted yes for Rabla. Of course you don’t need to believe this. Also could explain why Eisen says he aligns with Aspi, assuming Aspi is good.

Because if they received 3 radical policies but they were both progressive, why would they lie about it? At least one of them must be radical.

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In the meantime, let’s try to put soke inductive logic into this. Now that rabla has participated in another government, we can try to build up the truth about our last radical government.

For this logic I shall make only one assumption: only a radical would lie. Sure, anyone can lie, but I don’t see much benefit in progressives lying. Well, since this logic hinders on this assumption, it’s nit rock solid, but it at least gives me some basis.

Eisen claimed he drew two radical policies, discarded one, and gave them to rabla. Rabla claims he receivd two radical policies. At least one of them is lying. It’s too hard to make sense out of it after just one round, but let’s try to connect it to the next round.

Both CJ and Rabla’s claims coincide with each other. They got two radical policies: Rabla discarded one, cj discarded the other. If we assume rabla is lying in this, then that means the only other possibility is that he received two progressive policies. And the probability of that is much lower than the probability of receiving two radical policies, simply because there are more radical policies.

With all that said, I can conclude that there is a higher probability that Eisen is lying thus meaning there is a higher probability that Eisen is a radical

Of course if my assumption is faulty and eisen has a reason for lying other than him being a radical… Or if rabla lied once but not twice, then my logic is flawed… Hence my only claim is that the probability is higher.

Eisen also claimed that aspi is his ally, but frankly, I don’t trust any of his statements at this point so I take that with a tiny grain of salt :stuck_out_tongue:

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I don’t have much to say about this government, even though CJ has enacted another progressive policy, I still don’t trust him completely, nor do I trust Rabla more than I did before but I may be proven wrong later on, of course. Passing a progressive policy could benefit a radical one, but it’s not that clever of a way to play this game. But for certain reasons, I don’t think they will be enacting any more progressive policies soon… Maybe I’m exposing our beloved radicals’ plans a little too much by saying that, though. :slight_smile:

[quote=“Pepe, post:226, topic:541”]
Since my goal is to obtain information on the other players, I’d like to push my previous nomination of @Sapphire as my chancellor. Since he has yet to participate in any of the games, I’d like to gauge his allegiance by having him make some decisions at this point.[/quote]

Ha, alright then, I’m not awfully curious to know more about Pepe’s loyalties, well, at least, not in such a direct manner, but I think this should be a good chance to show to our other members where I stand. I hope we’ll do our best for our village, Pepe. Let’s really believe you want to gain information and use it to do the right thing in our council rather than trick me by giving me two radical policies or something. And actually, I’m a her. :blush:

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Alright, I guess that settles it, then :smiley: I officially nominate @Sapphire as the chancellor for this government!

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Oh! My apologies for making the mistake, then :sweat_smile:

Say it in bold! Oh well, I’ll just pretend you did.

Voting Phase

@Yerian@EisenKoubu@Aspirety@Rabla@Pepe@DaBackpack@cjlim2007@Sapphire@Necem

Since our presidential candidate has chosen a chancellor, it’s time for everyone to vote.

President: Pepe
Chancellor: Sapphire

Do you trust these two to represent you and the entire village of Hinamizawa and enact a policy on your behalf? Please PM your votes directly to me.

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That’s okay.

Let’s see how this government of ours will turn out then.

Maybe one day the voting phase will finish…

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