Rokkenjima Secret Oyashiro I [Finished - Progressive Victory]

Voting Phase

@Yerian@EisenKoubu@Aspirety@Rabla@Pepe@DaBackpack@cjlim2007@Sapphire@Necem

Since our presidential candidate has chosen a chancellor, it’s time for everyone to vote.

President: DaBackpack
Chancellor: Yerian

Do you trust these two to represent you and the entire village of Hinamizawa and enact a policy on your behalf? Please PM your votes directly to me.

Man, I think we’re coming up on that part when we realize that things never go as easily as we’d all hope…

Oh well. At least we will have learned something in the end. Ive made several attempts throughout this game, but Ive been pretty much ignored. I guess I cant really blame myself though… as Sapphire pointed out, I havent had much chance to actively control this game yet… though I still find it comical that people believe the chancellors who instate progressive policies are somehow more trustworthy than their respective presidents…

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Well, I’ve been suspecting you two or at least one of you might be extremists for a while now. It makes the most sense that you would go for that progressive policy first to earn our trust and stab us in the backs right about… now. I mean, somebody has to be an extremist :stuck_out_tongue:

It’s too fishy. I’m gonna vote no on this one. Don’t hold it against me.

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I’ll just say it now. The people I believe have the highest chance of being Radical right now are Eisen, cj, DaBackpack and Yerian. Maybe Rabla.

And look who nominated Yerian? Oh hey it was cj.
Think carefully about this folks!

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That is definitely good thinking since your main purpose on enacting me as your chancellor was information gathering, though I don’t agree with @Aspirety that saying that reveals anything about your loyalties. Certainly, you would sound sincere and very much a progressive if you said that, and since information gathering is something that progressive should do, what you’re saying you did is very acceptable, so there’s nothing suspicious there. Or of course you may be a radical and have discarded the progressive policy and hoped that I would do the same. Thus, I think you gave a simple reason that doesn’t need to be overlooked and probably doesn’t reveal much about your allegiance.

Now, as for this next government, I’m quite excited. As I said before, Yerian has moved quite indirectly before and I am pretty curious to see what will happen now that he has a more direct role. Actually, maybe it is not so direct, since he himself said that it is comical that many of us think the chancellor is more important than the president… maybe he’s telling us to watch DaBackpack more carefully? Or maybe they are both beloved radicals and want to make one of them, in this case Yerian, look like a progressive by saying that the president is more important and making it look like the president manipulated the chancellor? We’ll find out in time, I suppose. :upside_down:

I don’t think this government will be doing very well, and even though @Necem is right in saying that at this point gathering information doesn’t matter very much, I believe that’s the only thing I can gain by voting yes in this election, which is what I’ll do.

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The vote has concluded! Here are the results:

With 7 votes for and 2 against, the vote goes through!

Government Phase

Our new government has once again the obligation of leading Hinamizawa. Let us pray that their choice is in the best interest of the entire village.

DaBackpack and Yerian, you two may not post in this topic until the government phase has concluded.

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Ruh-roh.

Also wat, there’s zero point in gathering information this late in the game. Our top priority is to move into checkmate, not delay it.

Certainly, but with these two suspicious ones leading the current government, that’t all we can do now, so let’s appreciate them both for being nice enough to expose us to certain information about themselves. :slight_smile:

And if they finish the game, all the better.

Speaking of, who did @Pepe investigate?

Well, I can’t argue with that :stuck_out_tongue:

Hm? It was a progressive policy, so he didn’t get the investigation.

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[quote=“Aspirety, post:270, topic:541”]
Hm? It was a progressive policy, so he didn’t get the investigation.[/quote]
Ah, my bad, I got the rules mixed up and thought it was the opposite. :grimacing:

@Yerian@EisenKoubu@Aspirety@Rabla@Pepe@DaBackpack@cjlim2007@Sapphire@Necem

Gather round, members of the council! The government has made their choice, a new policy has been enacted!

“Actions and speech that can be considered ‘defamation’ of Hinamizawan traditions and religion are to be punished severely.”

A gritting of teeth can be heard across the room. It’s a radical policy. And everything had been going so well…!

@DaBackpack, you now have the privilege to make use of Investigation, allowing you to discover one player’s alignment. Feel free to get input from other players as to who should be investigated, and once you’ve made up your mind, state the name of player you want to investigate in bold. I will then PM you that player’s alignment.

I’m 100% sure Im about to get blamed for this (I could even tell you exactly who would open theyre mouth first), so allow me to get the first word in!

Although certain members are sure not to believe me no matter what I say, I swear on my honor as a council member, and on my life itself that I was given 2 radical policies. I knew this was coming too! After all, there was only a 15% chance that DaBackpack be given any progressive policy at all!


However, let us not explode into a fit of anxiety and fear. We are still extremely close to winning this game. And, I am very proud of you all! Finally, starting to doubt people who have made the exact same moves as you! Thats what I like to see!

Although, odd… that @Aspirety wouldnt mention Pepe or Saphire or Necem or himself, despite previously having the exact same track record as most of those he did blame…

Oh hey, what do you know, thats four people you didnt mention… arent there supposed to be four radicals…

Well, just pointing out something I noticed, you know. Im not saying we should lash out that group, but… they have been most incendiary of all the council members for the duration of the game…

I already claimed who I believe to be the most likely to be radicals, but I didn’t provide my reasoning. Allow me to do so now.

With each progressive policy passed, it becomes less beneficial for a radical to push a progressive policy. When the game is closest to a progressive victory, the extremists have the most to lose by pushing a progressive policy. At least now, we can hopefully isolate the extremists from the progressives, because there’s no longer any benefit in an extremist pushing a progressive policy.

With that in mind, yes, myself and Necem are the next most likely to be extremists. I won’t deny this possibility. But if you are going to doubt me, you need to start cross-examining all of my actions from the game up to this point. Did I make any move that would lead you to believe that I am acting in favour of the extremists? Well, I can think of one, which I already made a point of earlier in the game. But it remains the case that Yerian and DaBackpack are the most suspicious of all right now.

This is where the game really gets interesting. Have fun cross-examining everyone, there should be plenty of data to scan through now.

There is also a high chance that it was because of the probability for progressive policy was also low. For now though, I don’t think it actually matters all that much. Why? Because we won’t elect either of them for this next government anyways. Once dabackpack does his investigation then it will be my turn to nominate. My top choices right now are you @Aspirety and @Rabla. I’ll let you guys decide who I should take. Or maybe just vote no on whoever I choose. I don’t really mind that either. This entire game so far has been the council saying yes to everything.

Though, we should give this investigation some proper thought. While it’s quite possible, even likely that DaBackpack is an extremist, if we can deny that possibility then his investigation will be quite informative to us.

Hey now that isn’t so radical :stuck_out_tongue:

Joking aside, seems we’ve gotten ourselves into a predicament.

I definitely don’t deny the possibility of three radical policies popping up. After the last two cards which, for arguments sake, we can assume were both radical, that leaves a 20% chance of picking another progressive policy. Which means a whopping 80% chance of receiving all 3 radical policies.

There are a total of 6 progressive policies. 4 were put into play, 1 was discarded by myself… If one of the previous governments also discarded a progressive policy, then yeah, it would be an 80% probability of getting 3 radical policies.

With all that said, however, that does not remove my doubt for both @DaBackpack and @Yerian. DaBackpack has not explained himself yet, which leaves us with not very much to go by… And I never really trusted them from the get-go :stuck_out_tongue: However, I wouldn’t be so quick to label them as radical either, because of probability.

As for who to investigate, well, like I said, I don’t believe that the investigation power is, in any way, useful, so go ahead and choose whoever you want. Allowing them to choose someone gives us more information than the actual outcome of the investigation.

I propose we investigate EisenKoubu. If we can demonstrate his allegiance, we should also be able to demonstrate the allegiance of Rabla and, well, me… Three birds with one stone.

Yerian is a wolf, I gave him 1 progressive and one radical policy.

I got 2 radicals and one progressive and discarding the radical policy

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I discarded one radical policy ***