Rokkenjima Secret Oyashiro III [Finished - One True Kings Victory]

Wonderlander you fool. To think there’s a decent chance that you’re my ally. I significantly regret shooting at you on the first day at the Crimson’s board, as I doubt you would have been much of an issue otherwise.

The way @Restkastel and @Blackrune are acting is normal, good progressive play.

I respond with a meme of higher power, The first Restkastel meme:

I said that if you a progressive, and I am a progressive, then you would have to be incompetent, or not taking the game seriously. Please don’t try to argue against that. It’s simply a fact.

I will vote NO
Because while I think it’s fair to pick someone else than me as chancellor considering I already had a role to play, I don’t see a clear reason to pick up @PocketyHat . In fact it seems like @StarTurner would be the most logical choice if we consider the “second block” being the later 5 picks as candidates and I’ve already stated that hat has been abnormally, completely quiet. More then even that, the decision was made quickly. It went from “I break meta” to “I chose hat” within the same post without even trying to give a reason for the pick or trying to discuss it.

@Restkastel
You know the problem in a sense for you is that if @akafa123 is an OTK, it means they’re trying to get @pictoshark out of the picture in order to get YOU elected next.

stumbles into the room, trips and falls to the ground

ME MYSELF AND I ARE HERE, I was busy attending to my own business. (aka, I was organizing my room for the past few days, and was trying to keep myself from getting distracted. I’ve only been able to just vote, so I apologize for my absence)

Now that’s settled, I will of course vote no as well. Especially since I don’t want to deal with a conflict, and I’m honestly not sure on who to believe between @pictoshark and @akafa123. (And I’ve had a bad experience dealing with conflicts in the past, so no thank you.) I haven’t been keeping notes to myself, so my play right now would be a bit poor. But I do agree that either both of them are Kings or at least one of them is.
Also, I’m pretty sure this government is gonna be nuked anyway, so anyone who votes yes is suspicious to me. Especially when I was nominated, a person who has been quiet for a long time.

That’s half the reason I chose you. Dummy.

Half the reason.

I mean, I do understand that since we’re not in oyashiro territory, we can still check who is a friend or a foe. But even then, I will still find the people who vote yes suspicious.

The way they are playing is the way of a normal progressive yes, but how is a OTK supposed to play? You are the fool for rushing into the defense of your friends so quick, the ones who seem “pitted against you”?

Nonetheless, I shall be voting yes for you because I trust you over akafa. And I believe Pockety is not a normal OTK so she’s good to go in as well

I’ll stay silent after this but…

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I was under the impression they were trying to find a reasonable pretext to investigate a progressive so that they could more easily and believably start a conflict. Since there was no conflicts or OTK policies beforehand they didnt really have a good place to start for reasonable investigation besides picking who was next under the pretext of seeing if they were an OTK or not.

Either that, or @akafa123 is telling the truth, did that for the reason above since there wasn’t really any highly suspicious people, at least in my opinion, to make sure that the investigate didnt end up in the hands of an OTK and @pictoshark’s cover was blown because of this.

Of course, what you said could be true, but its also easily explainable by what I said above. They could also be trying to throw shade on me by making it seem like they are trying to put me in power, allowing them to discredit two progressives with one single investigate.

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Yeah, I seriously don’t know what to do in this situation. Both @akafa123 and @pictoshark seem shady as heck.

I don’t really understand @pictoshark’s decision making right now, but I’m also kind of inclined to think @akafa123 is lying right now. I think I’m going to vote yes, and I’m hoping I don’t regret it.

I will cut that with the meme truth.

Why did you not save photoshop. HERES the actual one.

I’m going to point out how particular I feel that both the presidential candidate and chancellor candidate are urging us to vote against them and even more that the presidential candidate seems to have chosen a chancellor for the very specific purpose of making it even more likely that people would vote against them .

It kinda makes me not want to touch it with a stick, but that makes me feel like I’m falling into some overly elaborate and confusing OTK plot.

Well, I would probably say that it makes sense for picto, as a progressive, to not want anyone to vote for him in this circumstance. Why one might ask? Because there is a high likelihood of drawing three OTK policies, and because there is still doubt on him, the investigation would be rather wasted since anything he says would have far more doubt on him than someone else, which would make the investigation far more worthless than if someone who was not in a conflict was forced to do an investigation.

If he drew a progressive in there, everything would be fine, but I get why he wouldn’t want to bet on that chance if he really is a progressive. An investigation is a very powerful tool after all and it is understandable why he would want to make sure that it gets the best use possible out of it.

It remains that they may still very well win the vote, and that it’s incredibly unlikely he obtains two progressive policies.

If he’s a progressive, he may end up winning wether he wants it or not, and having a chancellor on the premise of being the most suspicious person out there could actually end up costing a progressive policy if that turns out to be actually true and he obtains a single progressive policy, which remains fairly high in the realm of possibilities. Even if picto’s a progressive, thus knows akafa is a radical, that doesn’t really change much about it being very likely akafa actually didn’t obtain any progressive policies, thus it remains at least highly probable that two of them are still left making odds of obtaining one far from bad.

Note : While I did point out myself that @PocketyHat 's silence was suspicious, the previous paragraph is written not on my POV about it but from the admittance that @pictoshark said about it being the reason hat was chosen.

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True, but from my experience playing this game with other people who know what they are doing, like pictoshark, when someone is trying to get their government downvoted like this its really odd for someone to vote yes for it. Normally its a given that everyone downvotes it because it seems really odd if you don’t.

Hence why @PocketyHat mentioned that she would be suspicious of anyone who voted yes. I think he was just, whether justly or unjustly, assuming that if he basically said he wanted to skip this go, people would follow. shrugs Thats just my two cents on the matter at least.

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My primary concern is not the downvote toward himself attempt, but the choosing of someone he says is suspicious as the reason to pick them.

It doesn’t even really chance much about suspicions to me, but it just doesn’t seem like a particularly good move.

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I guess it was to help ensure that he would get downvoted? Other than that I have no real clue about it. Though this -is- Picto we are dealing with. Perhaps he had a strategy in mind and forgot it halfway through.

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Just to clarify my position there :

If I was to pick up who I think are most likely OTK so far, I’d go with both akafa and rabla. Rabla has that odd policy choice that seems like my own policy had such a strong effect on their feelings, the prevent further change thing really doesn’t help there, but when you think of it that it also rendered a progressive policy entirely useless, it just is too strange to me.

Akafa is just a hunch that their action makes a lot of sense if they are trying to protect Rabla (by not creating a conflict with them nor investigating them to make sure after that policy) and create conflict elsewhere. When it comes down to it, I can’t really make a clear choice there, but for now I’m leaning toward Akafa being more suspicious than Picto. Further events will change.

However I think the choice of Pocketyhat as chancellor is not the best of move given current knowledge that could backfire. While I have lower suspicions about the either of them, having some suspicions about both is enough reason to downvote them. Further information on any of these members are still left open to change my mind of course. There’s definitively two very different scenarios playing out over Akafa vs Pictoshark that I need slightly more informations on right now.