Rokkenjima Secret Oyashiro III [Finished - One True Kings Victory]

@Blackrune, would you feel better about @UsagiTenpura and yourself as chancellor? I preferred the other way around but I’m more inclined to think that you’re a progressive and not Oyashiro so I would be willing to go that route if you wanted.

I would rather appoint you as president and have @UsagiTenpura as chancellor, but if that’s not something you’re willing to do I can change the game plan.

Do you want to be president? I’ll appoint you, but honestly I think shooting randomly in the dark for another player like Pocketyhat or Wonderlander is a bad call, especially since the latter doesn’t even seem to want it and that would probably be something I’d vote down.

If we get two progressives in the seats next turn, I think we can win. That’s why I’m trying very hard to get a safe lineup.

Well, same problem as with you. I… I’m not sure if I can be chancellor twice in a row. I think that plan may be foiled by how the rules work.

Oh! That makes sense.

…So. How do you feel about being president?

Just to be clear @Karifean, the president from the special candidacy can’t appoint the president or chancellor from the round before correct? Or can they?

They cannot. Normal rules apply.

Just checking. Thanks!

Bah this sucks.
Sorry, remember that this is the first time I’m playing this game.

Alright. I doubt I’m going to change my mind on who to appoint.

I nominate @Blackrune to special candidacy.

Well damn.
Now I have to deal with this.
It’s best to take all the time we have here for everyone to throw in their opinion.
I really want to pick Rest because nobody seems to be for them, but I guess that could be the trick in itself. (or the other OTKs are all inactive.) Anyway that likely wouldn’t even pass.
WIth Usagi the problem is still that being the most trustworthy person in the room paradoxically makes you suspicious. (but let’s be real if they’re Oyashiro they’d have played this pretty well.)
Awaiting everyone’s two cents, I guess.

@UsagiTenpura @Blackrune @akafa123 @PictoShark @Restkastel @StarTurner @PocketyHat @thesorceress @Wonderlander @Rabla

Blackrune has been chosen as the special candidate. The rotation will resume with Wonderlander after their term, regardless of Blackrune’s government is accepted or rejected.


Current game status

One True King policies played: 3
Progressive policies played: 4!
Next presidential privilege unlocked by OTK policy: Onikakushi
Previous government: thesorceress and Blackrune
Remaining policies in stock: 6
If Oyashiro is elected chancellor, the One True Kings win instantly.

Nomination Phase

@Blackrune, you are the current presidential candidate, please nominate a chancellor. Do note that thesorceress cannot be nominated as chancellor since they were part of the previous government. Feel free to take your time and discuss the results of the previous government phase with your fellow council members, but once you’ve made up your mind regarding a chancellor, please state their name in bold. The voting starts immediately as soon as you make your decision. You have 24 hours to choose someone.

But it makes you as suspicious as me for the same reasons, heh.


I’m going to say this, if anything. The reason as far as I get it that you’re suspecting me is primarily because of thesorceress’ insistance of chosing me as chancellor.
-It’s not really irrational either, on the very first turn we could’ve conspired together. Maybe I actually just gave her a single progressive policy, and she lied as a way to communicate to me that she’s also an OTK. Pictoshark even pointed out something along those lines.
-But if that’s the case she could’ve found an excuse to pick up someone other than you as special candidate who’d swear to chose me as chancellor.

What I find suspicious is that you really have no real reason to pick up Restkastel and gradually seem to appear like you’re looking for a reason to chose them, if I’m really honest there.

You may as well go for StarTurner as an alternative option since you’d at least have a reason to pick him.

But if you do chose him, I’ll have to go along with the next best choice, meaning downvoting this government and trusting the next one, wonderlander.

Ah, I may as well add that wonderlander may be an OTK, but I don’t think they’re Oyashiro since sorta asked not to be chosen as chancellor and would be the next presidential candidate, putting any chance of them being chosen as chancellor not anywhere soon. It could end up with us losing a progressive policy, which is a bad thing, and a bad idea, but at least it seems unlikely they are Oyashiro and thus the game wouldn’t end here.

At least if a conflict appears, we can skip his presidency after. There’s always that. You also would be in a position to auto-murder them if you wanted to.

awwww you flatter me Rest chan…[quote=“UsagiTenpura, post:461, topic:908”]
But in this game with such a pace where everyone has too many time to think about everything, I think it’d be a really bad move.
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I fully disagree, If I was Oyashiro I would absolutely make that move.


We NEED to not elect Oyashiro as Chancellor, as if we do, the Kings will win immediately.

Alright boys and girls! Are you ready, for a mind boggling move? I’m gonna propose an amazing, slightly insane yellow tactic, and for a brief moment I thought I missed my window and was crushed with the immense despair of not seeing this amazing situation play out.

This is not Mafia, the Kings do not have a private communication channel to co-ordinate with each other.

Therefore every King must plan individually, and cannot ask each other for tactical advice.

Akafa is not competent enough to see the plus sides of entering a conflict as Oyashiro

Akafa is not Oyashiro.

We should elect akafa as chancellor, as we’re going to have to trust the president @Blackrune with a bullet anyway. Then shoot at a different suspicious person, eliminating a King or maybe even Oyashiro.

Best case scenario, @akafa123 is actually a Progressive, I’ve been lying to you the whole time, and we’ve got an easy win around the corner!

You want…us to…make a OTK chancellor.

I mean, that’s a plan. That exists. But where would we go after that? The same problem is going to exist next round and the next with people who are more likely to be OTKs than @Blackrune.

*an

Alright, grammar’s tricky. Seriously though I don’t know where this plan leaves us. If we appoint a OTK right now, then they’re going to dismiss any progressive policies out of hand and we’re going to be stuck with someone very likely could be a OTK next turn. Do you have any ideas for going forward after that point?

Okay, fine, I’m going to have to assume that both pictoshark and restkastel could make this move.

But this doesn’t change in anyway that Oyashiro declaring a progressive to be progressive in an investigation is not in any ways a bad move either, or at the very least it doesn’t really suggest anything.

Heck the proof that it’s not a bad move is that Blackrune is currently thinking of chosing him based on that alone

Uh, him = Restkastel, we don’t know if he’s Oyashiro.
But see, if he is he’d have made a great move.

My main tactic is to dodge Oyashiro chan like the plague, and find out who we can trust!

There are 6 policies left in the deck.

If we dig to the bottom of the deck, elected Progressive presidents and Non-Oyashiro chancellors, then we can find out the root of this whole deck, and see if any lies were told.

That way, even if we don’t get a Progressive policy passed en route to the bottom, we’ll know precisely whether we can trust these presidents by the time we reshuffle and unlock veto power.

Not only that, but we would have to deal with the issue of the bullet this turn depending on how the cards come up. This is a very…bad thing for us. With how much confusion on who is and isn’t Oyashiro and who the Fascs are for sure, we could very easily kill a Progressive.

And the issue with electing akafa as a chancellor now even if he is a regular king, he would be forced to play a king policy, which would mean that we would jsut be confirming somethign we already know for fairly sure, and while it would solve the issue of who to shoot, shooting akafa would lead to other problems, such as wasting the one benefit we get from electing chancellors in this dangerous time.

The not-oyashiro card.

Normally, we would be up one more person we could trust to be chancellor and, providing you trust me, we could bounce between Blackrune and that person until the end, avoiding the issue of Oyashiro from here on out. However, if we waste our bullet on the obvious king so that we don’t hit a progressive, then we are worse off with that.

I propose that we continue to avoid the conflict like the plague, and find someone else to nominate besides Akafa, that way we can throw the bullet his way, assuming he is actually a king, so that we don’t hit a progressive and we don’t waste a bullet.

Current Progressives - 6

Current Kings - 4