Devil's Playground - Game 3

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#203

Alright let’s try this blue
Dalinar entered the house while Astrid was letting the other group through another door into the guest house. Dalinar then spent an amount of time searching the house while Arya and Adolin entered the basement. Since neither of them have the master key or basement keys they cannot lock the door. While both Arya and Adolin are in the room Dalinar enters the room without them noticing and hides in there for an amount of time, while Astrid returns to the basement after realizing that she has the only way to lock the basement. The basement is then locked from the inside with Arya, Adolin and Dalinar inside the basement. Dalinar then killed Arya anf Adolin inside the basement, and while he was pondering how to escape Astrid returns to the basement, finds Dalinar surrounded by dead bodies and kills him. Astrid then moves Dalinar’s body out of the room and returns to Arya to return to the basement to find the murders

#204

Only Adolin and Arya could use the basement keys. Astrid locked them into the basement with the Master Key.

#205

Repeat in red
Only Adolin and Arya entered the room before it was locked.

All entrances into the basement were locked at the time the door was locked.

Adolin and Arya have all keys to the basement as they enter the room.

Any entrances into the basement can only be locked using either the basement or master key.

And
If one were to use the window to enter the basement, where would they have to be to get through it?

#206

All entrances into the basement were locked at the time the door was locked.

Adolin and Arya have all keys to the basement as they enter the room.

As for the other two, I’ll refuse for now.

The window in the basement leads outside. What type of window would it be otherwise?

#207
  1. Dalinar entered in the guest mansion while the living group was entering as well. Astrid leaves the first floor through an entrance which didn’t have to be opened, either breaking it down or having left it open. She finds Dalinar and kills him, she then unlocks the basement, enters and locks it again, since the bodies still haven’t been found the basement can still be locked. Astrid kills Arya and Adolin, leaves the basement and locks it again.
  2. Dalinar entered in the guest mansion while the living group was entering as well. Dalinar enters in the basement before Arya and Adolin arrive there and hides outside the window, after Arya and Adolin enter in the basement, the window is opened by one of the three, Dalinar kills Arya and Adolin and ends up being killed as well, his body leaves the basement either by falling through the window, or a hole on the ground, or any oher exit there might exist inside the basement.

Repeat these:

  1. Dalinar never entered in the guest mansion.
  2. Astrid never entered in the basement between the time they found Vin’s head and the time they found the bodies of Arya and Adolin.
  3. When Astrid and Shallan were at the door to the basement, all entrances and exits to the basement could not be used.
  4. When Astrid and Shallan were at the door to the basement, the only bodies in the basement were Arya and Adolin.
  5. Since the time the living group entered in the guest mansion, the door to the basement was only locked once.
  6. It’s impossible to lock the basement from the outside.
#208

Hey, I have seen a few windows that has both sides of it inside. I always wonder why people bother, but I have seen them.

  1. Dalinar entered with Arya and Adolin, Dalinar could enter because the basement was not locked until Astrid locked it.

  2. The Guest House is shaped such that there is an encirclement around a part which could be called “outside”. You do not have to leave the house to get there so you are still inside the house. Dalinar entered the window at the same time as Arya and Adolin were entering through the door.

  3. Astrid left before fully locking Arya and Adolin into the basement which allows Dalinar to enter through the door before Astrid returns to lock it

#209

Since the time the living group entered in the guest mansion, the door to the basement was only locked once.

Dalinar’s body was not moved at all after his death. His body is in the same place as he was killed.

When Astrid and Shallan were at the door to the basement, all entrances and exits to the basement could not be used.

When Astrid and Shallan were at the door to the basement, the only bodies in the basement were Arya and Adolin.

You think I would confirm such broad and impactful statements with my sacred Red? Tsk. For shame.

Astrid locked the basement from the first floor. I cannot repeat this.

When Astrid locked the basement, there was nobody aside from Adolin and Arya inside of it.

#210

Dalinar entered from the window as Arya and Adolin were walking in and killed both then exited the basement as Astrid walked away from the basement only to return a few moments later to lock the door. Astrid then finds Dalinar before they go to open the basement to find the bodies and kills him.

#211

Arya and Adolin were alive when the Basement was locked by Astrid.

#212

Confirm
The living group, that being Arya, Adolin, Astrid and Shallin, used the master key to gain acess into the guest house.

From the time Astrid locked the basement door to when either Astrid or Shallin unlocked the door, the master key never left Astrid’s supervision.

You cannot unlock the window from outside, being outside the window but not out of the house.

Expanding on the earlier red, There are only five bodies that can have any affect on the situation in the basement either by being a victim, murderer or witness, an accomplice does not fall under any other category.

#213

For the sake of clarity, I will be rewriting some reds, while addressing the points you are asking for.

The first one I’m not repeating because that essentially is asking if Astrid did not commit the Basement murders.

From the time Astrid locked the basement door to when either Astrid or Shallin unlocked the door, the master key never left Astrid’s supervision.

The window can be opened from the outside.

Aside from Vin being an accomplice to Kaladin, who are both dead at this point, there are no accomplices.

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#214

Just a few more things

This does not answer my request of can the window be unlocked from the outside. So I ask again Can the window be unlocked from the outside

Please define further which entrances are locked.

Please further define the body they had not checked.

Burning a body would still result in the ashes being counted as a body

The five bodies allowed in this case belong to Arya, Adolin, Astrid, Shallin and Dalinar

No person was killed inbetween leaving the shed and entering the guest house

By killing a person, the murderer is then called a culprit

When an entrance is locked it means that there can be no more use of that entrance until it has been unlocked

#215

  1. Dalinar entered in the guest mansion while the living group was entering it. Astrid locked Arya and Adolin in the basement. While in the first floor, Astrid finds Dalinar and freaks out, she kills Dalinar and uses the windows to reach the basement. Astrid doesn’t have to open the window, she either broke it down or it had been open in the first place. In the basement, Astrid kills Arya and Adolin entering through the window. The window was either unlocked, was unlocked by her, or was opened without the intention to let her in. Astrid leaves through the window and it doesn’t matter whether she locked it or left it open.

  2. Dalinar entered in the guest mansion while the living group was entering as well. Astrid locked Arya and Adolin in the basement. While in the first floor, Astrid finds Dalinar and freaks out, she kills Dalinar and leaves the first floor. Astrid doesn’t have to open any entrance, she either broke it down or it had been open in the first place. In the basement, Astrid kills Arya and Adolin entering through the window. The window was either unlocked, was unlocked by her, or was opened without the intention to let her in. Astrid leaves through the door. The door was unlocked by Astrid, and she made it so the door could not be used without locking it. When Astrid and Shallan arrived at the door, Shallan was fooled by Astrid’s trick and thought the door was locked, Astrid pretended to unlock it, made it so that it would be possible to use it once again.

  3. Dalinar entered in the guest mansion while the living group was entering as well. Dalinar uses the window to enter in the basement. The window was either unlocked, or was opened without the intention to let him in. Dalinar kills Arya and Adolin and leaves the basement, making it so that the window could not be used. Before going to check Adolin and Arya, Dalinar is spotted by Astrid. Dalinar entered in the first floor either breaking down an entrance or using an entrance that was previously unlocked. Astrid kills Dalinar before going to the basement.

  4. Dalinar entered in the guest mansion while the living group was entering as well. Dalinar uses the window to enter in the basement. The window was either unlocked, or was opened without the intention to let him in. Dalinar kills Arya and Adolin and leaves the basement, making it so that the window could not be used. Before going to check Adolin and Arya, Dalinar is spotted by Shallan. Dalinar entered in the first floor either breaking down an entrance or using an entrance that was previously unlocked. Shallan kills Dalinar before going to the basement.

#216

The window can only be unlocked from the inside.

All entrances are locked. All of them.

Astrid checked Adolin and then Arya. Shallan checked Arya and then Adolin.

Now for repetitions…

Burning a body would still result in the ashes being counted as a body

The five bodies allowed in this case belong to Arya, Adolin, Astrid, Shallin and Dalinar

No person was killed inbetween leaving the garage and the group entering the guest house

By killing a person, the murderer is then called a culprit

I refuse to repeat the last one.

The only time that the door was unlocked was when Astrid unlocked it from the first floor.

Astrid never left the first floor using a window.

Dalinar only entered the Guesthouse once

#217

Just two requests this time
The window can only be locked from the inside

When an entrance is locked it means that there can be no further use of the entrance until someone either breaks through the entrance by force or unlocks the entrance

#218

I refuse both.

#220

Please, repeat this: “Astrid was the only one to die after Shallan, and when Shallan was killed, Arya, Sethon, Adolin, Horace, Dalinar, and Kalladin were dead”.

#221

Astrid was the only one to die after Shallan, and when Shallan was killed, Arya, Sethon, Adolin, Horace, Dalinar, and Kalladin were dead

#222

Alright time for some theories
1
Dalinar entered the house through a different entrance than the living party entered. Dalinar then entered into the basement through the window which he was able to accomplish by:

  1. The window had been opened for some reason other than to let Dalinar in.
  2. Dalinar broke through the window to gain access into the room.
  3. The window was locked but not closed so he simply opened the window and entered.

Following this Dalinar killed Arya and Adolin and then exited the room by one of two ways

  1. Exiting through the window
  2. The door had been locked but not closed as such Dalinar walked through the doorway.

After Dalinar left the basement, Shallin found Dalinar and killed him. Shallin and Astrid then went to discover the bodies in the basement.

2
Dalinar entered the house through a different entrance than the living party entered. Dalinar then entered into the basement through the door which had been locked and not closed. He then killed Arya and Adolin and exited the basement through the door. Shallin then found Dalinar and killed him outside the basement. Shallin and Astrid then went to find the bodies in the basement.

3
Dalinar entered the house through a different entrance than the living party entered. Shallin then entered into the basement through the window which he was able to accomplish by:

  1. The window had been opened for some reason other than to let Shallin in.
  2. Shallin broke through the window to gain access into the room.
  3. The window was locked but not closed so he simply opened the window and entered.

Following this Shallin killed Arya and Adolin and then exited the room by one of two ways

  1. Exiting through the window
  2. The door had been locked but not closed as such Shallin walked through the doorway.

After Shallin left the basement, Shallin found Dalinar and killed him. Shallin and Astrid then went to discover the bodies in the basement.

4
Dalinar entered the house through a different entrance than the living party entered. Shallin then entered into the basement through the door which had been locked and not closed. He then killed Arya and Adolin and exited the basement through the door. Shallin then found Dalinar and killed him outside the basement. Shallin and Astrid then went to find the bodies in the basement.

#223

  1. Dalinar entered in the guest mansion while the living group was entering it. While in the first floor, Astrid finds Dalinar and freaks out, she kills Dalinar and goes to the basement. Astrid doesn’t have to open any entrance, she either broke it down or it had been open in the first place. In the basement, Astrid kills Arya and Adolin entering through the window. The window was either unlocked, or was opened without the intention to let her in. Astrid leaves through the window and it doesn’t matter whether she locked it or left it open, she could still lock it regardless.

  2. Dalinar entered in the guest mansion while the living group was entering as well. Astrid kills Arya and Adolin and locks them in the basement. Afterwards she finds Dalinar and kills him.

  3. Dalinar entered in the guest mansion while the living group was entering as well. Astrid locked Arya and Adolin in the basement. While in the first floor, Astrid finds Dalinar and freaks out, she kills Dalinar and leaves the first floor. Astrid doesn’t have to open any entrance, she either broke it down or it had been open in the first place. In the basement, Astrid kills Arya and Adolin entering through the door, she unlocks the door, kills Arya and Adolin and, upon leaving, makes it so that the door cannot be used without locking it. When Astride and Shallan arrived at the door, Shallan was fooled by Astrid’s trick and thought the door was locked, Astrid pretended to unlock it, and made it so that it would be possible to use it once again.

  4. Dalinar entered in the guest mansion while the living group was entering as well. Astrid locked Arya and Adolin in the basement. While in the first floor, Astrid finds Dalinar and freaks out, she kills Dalinar and leaves the first floor. Astrid doesn’t have to open any entrance, she either broke it down or it had been open in the first place. In the basement, Astrid kills Arya and Adolin entering through the door, she unlocks the door, kills Arya and Adolin and, before leaving, makes it so that the door cannot be used without locking it. Astrid leaves through the window and it doesn’t matter whether she locked it or left it open, she could still lock it regardless. When Astrid and Shallan arrived at the door, Shallan was fooled by Astrid’s trick and thought the door was locked, Astrid pretended to unlock it, and made it so that it would be possible to use it once again.

  5. Dalinar entered in the guest mansion when Arya and Adolin were already in the basement. Dalinar used the window to enter in the basement. The window was either unlocked, or was opened without the intention to let him in. Dalinar kills Arya and Adolin and leaves the basement, making it so that the window or the door could not be used. Before going to check Adolin and Arya, Dalinar is spotted by Astrid. Dalinar entered in the guest mansion either breaking down an entrance or using an entrance that was previously unlocked. Entering in the basement does not constitute entering in the guest mansion, so there’s no problem if he uses the window to leave the basement. Astrid kills Dalinar before going to the basement.

  6. Dalinar entered in the guest mansion when Arya and Adolin were already in the basement. Dalinar used the window to enter in the basement. The window was either unlocked, or was opened without the intention to let him in. Dalinar kills Arya and Adolin and leaves the basement, making it so that the window or the door could not be used. Before going to check Adolin and Arya, Dalinar is spotted by Shallan. Dalinar entered in the guest mansion either breaking down an entrance or using an entrance that was previously unlocked. Entering in the basement does not constitute entering in the guest mansion, so there’s no problem if he uses the window to leave the basement. Shallan kills Dalinar before going to the basement.

  7. Dalinar entered in the guest mansion when Arya and Adolin were already in the basement. Dalinar used the window to enter in the basement. The window was either unlocked, or was opened without the intention to let him in. Dalinar kills Arya and Adolin and leaves the basement, making it so that the window or the door could not be used. Before going to check Adolin and Arya, Dalinar is spotted by Astrid. Dalinar didn’t even have the chance to enter in the guest mansion and was killed by Astrid while he was outside the guest mansion.

  8. Dalinar entered in the guest mansion when Arya and Adolin were already in the basement. Dalinar used the window to enter in the basement. The window was either unlocked, or was opened without the intention to let him in. Dalinar kills Arya and Adolin and leaves the basement, making it so that the window or the door could not be used. Before going to check Adolin and Arya, Dalinar is spotted by Shallan. Dalinar didn’t even have the chance to enter in the guest mansion and was killed by Shallan while he was outside the guest mansion.