Recollection of a Mafia game [GAME OVER - Lovers' Victory]

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#361

So, I am making this list to compile my current thoughts on each player and for further reference. You can feel free to comment on it, of course.

Blackrune - Trustworthy for me so far, and has shown good intuition. Has been mostly analysing the players and has been more passive on the game as a whole, which is something I think everybody should have done more on the first day, rather than focus on cornering King. Or Blackrune is a witch and may be trying to mask his knowledge on the game as intuition.

Pictoshark - Except for attacking other players and fighting with King, he hasn’t done much. May truly be a human, cause of King’s sacrifice, but he may also just be trying to cover up his witch persona by not analysing much and just making accusations.

Karifean - I’m not sure about him, he might be either good or bad. Has made quite a few accusations but has also been trying to lead the others, so I don’t know.

UsagiTenpura - Gives off the same air as Blackrune, being mostly analytical and contemplative. Could be either one, if a witch, he’s just manipulating the knowledge he has, but seems more confused about the game than Blackrune, so it’s unlikely.

Quixote - Too passive for me to say anything of importance about him.

Doldod - Passive too, but stands pretty firm on his thoughts.

thesorceress - Frankly, just seems confused and trying to help around and pretty neutral too. A good mindset to have if she’s a human.

SleepingPliskin - Passive, and his posts are too vague to make anything out of them.

EternalMagician - Except for the middle ground line, has said little since then and been passive, which may be the route a witch may take after slipping up. But I don’t want to make much of little things like that…

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#362

Just decided to make this list since it can be useful and my personal memory kinda sucks about these things.

Obviously we may have liars. Among the people still alive, the list is in order of who introduced themselves. I removed the alignment of people who are still alive cause we don’t really know in the end so it’s pointless to say “human aligned for everyone”. Likewise keep in mind that those “already dead at the beginning of the game” could turn out to be still alive if people have been lying about their identity. I don’t really like considering this, but it’s also possible the 18 doesn’t perfectly match the cast of the island if there are liars.

Nobody - Natsuhi - Already dead at the beginning of the game
Nobody - Jessica - Already dead at the beginning of the game
Nobody - Rudolf - Already dead at the beginning of the game
Nobody - Kyrie - Already dead at the beginning of the game
Nobody - Nanjo - Already dead at the beginning of the game
Nobody - Gohda - Already dead at the beginning of the game

King_Titanine_XV - Rosa, Human Aligned Mother of the Year - died on the first day
akafa123 - Maria, Human Aligned Strange Child - died on the first night

thesorceress - Genji, Chess Enthusiast - Alive
usagitenpura - Hideyoshi, Company President - Alive
sleepingpliskin - Krauss, Future Head - Alive
Karifean - Battler, Witch Hunter - Alive
EternalMagician - Eva, Sharp Tongue - Alive
blackrune - Kinzo, Crazed Summoner - Alive
Sapphire - George, Beloved Son - Alive (additional note : claims to be bound to doldol in life and death status)
doldod/Shannon - Shannon, Clumsy Servant - Alive
pictoshark - Kumasawa, Mackerel Jester - Alive
Quixote - Kanon, Silent Furniture - Alive

I’d like people to update this should I pass away.

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#363

Useful list.

I’m not sure why anyone would lie about their identity–it never really seems to help them, but it’s good to keep the concept in mind.

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#364

Well they’d have to make something up if they’re not actually human. And if your actual piece is like, Beatrice, you prooobably wouldn’t want to go with it.
But we don’t really know how much the witches were forced to lie here. It’s very likely they just had to switch one word or were provided a couple “safe human pieces” to claim an identity with.

#365

But those trusted players might have had the eye of a protector.

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#366

True, if the witches kept the possibility of a protector in mind then akafa might have been the ideal compromise, being decently active (and probably looking harder to set up as a scapegoat compared to others) but not really the one with the most attention.

…I guess it’s also possible they’re trying to mess with me by killing a correct guess from that list I had so I’d end up trusting the remaining people on the list way too much. Don’t think so though, that’d be quite the reason to mess with one single person.

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#367

They have a whole day to figure out who’s the best kill if they don’t have any other powers. Keep that in mind.

#368

I doubt it on the latter point. I had a weird conspiracy theory; it wouldn’t be the first time.

You and picto are probably right. Akafa wouldn’t be likely for the protector to protect.

#369

Are you suggesting they don’t have any powers, and that’s why they’re worried about a protector?

#370

Nah, not really.

The witch team always has to worry about an unknown protector to a certain extent.

The no powers thing was just to explain to @Blackrune a possible circumstance where they might have devoted a large amount of thought to their target.

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#371

Ok, I don’t see any way around it, so even if it endangers us both I have to confirm that my PM did say that myself and Sapphire are bound in life and death and if one of us dies the other dies as well. It also mentions that their alignment is human. We, of course, are possible targets now for the witches to go for at night, so if there is a protector they should think carefully who they want to use their powers on now.
The only vote cast right now is by Kari on EternalMagician and I’m a bit hesitant to vote for him as of yet. I’d consider either @SleepingPliskin or @Quixote to be a likely witch, since they didn’t seem to contribute much to the discussion and Pliskin was quite happy to jump on King without giving any valid reason other that they are going with the flow.

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#372

But of course you knew Shannon, I should never have doubted you! :two_hearts:

#373

On a more serious note, I agree that both Pliskin and Quixote have been passive, which may be a witch move, albeit a very obvious one. So maybe the real witches are being more active and making us think that the passive ones are witches instead of them…?

#374

“Happy” would be presuming too much. I went with the flow mostly because it was my first time playing Mafia through text. I wanted to observe how the game feels before actively engaging in it. Because of it, I had no reason to go against the flow because the King/Picto situation was an unforseen screw up to begin with. I’ll become more active, now that I have a good look at how everyone works. I’m not one to do accusations, but I will help out when needed. After all, I am the head heir of the house.

#375

This is not a very reasonable argument but which would you rather lose against, considering that risk is always there?

An active witch that outsmarted you
or
A passive witch that sit and eat popcorn while watching us gut each other due to being suspicious for the things we say including accusations and stuff

Also I salute you two’s bravery in coming forward with that information. We at least now know that you two are on the same side, whichever side that is. One way or another that was an extremely dangerous move.

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#376

I think you’re right and it really makes me want the detective to go and investigate one of them tonight. That way we can determine if they’re both humans or witches. (I am much much more inclinded to think they’re humans though. This would be an increadibly bad move if they were witches, but Sapphire revealing this as a human seems more likely.)

In other news, where the heck are @Quixote and @EternalMagician. I think they’re the only ones who haven’t commented so far.

#377

Just woke up and trying to get something useful out of what has happened.

Me neither so if it’s true (which I think it is) then it’s just the two of them who has it.

Fom my experience there’s usually at least one active and one passive witch (depending, of course, of how many witches there are in play). I’m fully aware that I have been very passive this game and that this might put me further in the spotlight but I just wanted to get this out there.

#378

I am here as well.

Interesting to note that I, as Kanon don’t have a ‘partner’ connection to Jessica, Although she would’ve died before the game started.

I think I’d have to agree with Pliskin on this one, Perhaps they wanted to perform a perfect second twilight, or cast suspicion on @Sapphire. I doubt (s)he would practically announce who they’re gonna kill like that if they were a witch.

I would be fine with this, I have nothing to hide. :grin:

#379

To be fair if I know the active witch is going to act like a smug bastard about it I might still rather throw it to the passive one, but yeah this line of thinking generally isn’t very helpful. :stuck_out_tongue:

For the record, I feel inclined to trust the Sapphire+Doldod combination because if they’re witches it would be a really terrible move if there is any investigative role around.

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#380

So do I.
Why? Because gambling.
We’re going to have to make a gamble one way or another this time around.
And the stakes of potentially gutting them both at once is just too high, so may as well trust them for now (if you two are witches, well played I guess).