Rokkenjima Mafia - Game II [Game Over - Human Side Victory]

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#121

@Aspirety, you seem like a level headed and reasonable fellow, and you even participated in the last game, am I right?

You’ve read through the example game handed out with our invitations, correct?

I don’t know why I think you’d do that, you just seem like that kind of reliable type of person, who harnesses all the information available to him.

I’ll even bet you read it while playing the first game, am I correct?

If so, I think you’d be an excellent person to bounce tactics off of. Would you care to get the ball rolling with some ideas?

#122

Because outside of making a Roleclaim you shouldn’t be quoting anything at all. There shouldn’t be any “fake quotes”.

#123

Can they not just copy paste the precise description of their team’s place in the game.

Not a quote, just CTRL+C, CTRL+V

I’m sure pink must have had something in their PMs that describes their place in the game.

If your prose would give the fakes away they could run it through google translate and back again to avoid that problem.

#124

If they make the decision to tell you then they can just say what it is in their words. Direct private information should not be quoted as-is.

#125

but does my dumbass google translate loop hole get around this?

Just say yes.

#126

My exact win conditions were Usagi and I are both alive at the end of the game. I have lost.

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#127

I doubt there is anyone else with the same arrangement as Usagi and I, though, if there is, I would think it would be better to reveal yourself. Hiding information like that has lead to our loss early in this game and it might be better to reveal that information for your own sake. Though I’m not certain anyone else in this game has that win condition, whether they’re from another world or not.

#128

Hello my fellow Humans. I’m very sorry that i’m so quite at the moment, but i have to state that I’m right know in holidays and I have bad internet connection here so i can’t come online very often. I hope you guys can understand that :confused:

#129

Seems like much information was brought to light today. But… I kinda think that it’s not the smartest move for everybody to ‘reveal’ their identity and abilities. Not that I believe everything that is said is true, but it seems to me that most of the people just roll with the idea and reveal everything.

Everybody, including the witches, now know that EternalMagician is the detective of this game. Our biggest weapon. I believe what he said is the truth, after all it would be quite far fetched that he lied about everything and is trying to deceive us. Even if he did, at this moment, there’s no real way for us humans to confirm if what he says the truth or not.

But the ones who know exactly if he’s lying or not are the witches. If he is not one of them, he has no reason to lie. Or does he?

If that is the case, they will go after him. Now what can we do to protect him? At the moment, we know of two abilities that can safe our detective. Pictosharks switching ability and our protector who is still unknown.
PLEASE, STAY HIDDEN. If you reveal yourself, we could get in real trouble. At the same time, the more people who reveal theirselfs, the less people are possible to be the protector. Or maybe the protector is one of the people who claim to have no ability.

Anyway, I think we need to keep our detective alive. Now we could just do that with switching him with a random person. Or protecting him every twilight. I will leave that up to the two who are capable of saving him. And, this doesn’t really need to be said but, you shouldn’t reveal your plan here. Do what you think works best. Don’t let the witches know.

But thats only what I think, If you have a better idea, do what you like.

Now for who the witches are. Honestly. I have no idea. Everything we got so far is, that an old man, who wasn’t targeted by anything, is the murderer of the last twilight. If he was targeted by someone else we could maybe work with that, but we got nothing. If someone has a suggestion for what we could do, I would gladly listen to them.

#130

probably.[quote=“Necem, post:129, topic:678”]
I believe what he said is the truth, after all it would be quite far fetched that he lied about everything and is trying to deceive us.
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Did you even read my post? it was a Kickass theory, and it kinda worked.

I’m quite lost myself. I think if we pool together our info an reapply it to the story we can figure a little more out.

Now where is the detective mage (@Karifean) when you need him the most…

And I was hoping for @Aspirety to help me figure things out…

Also, these post number stats might be helpful.

#131

Yes I did, but I don’t think it’s likely. Maybe the next twilight will enlighten us. If we find out that he is targeted by suspicious abilites, that would confirm his words.

#132

Me, much like our friend SuperM here, have limited time spaces where I am able to view this gameboard. I apologise deeply if I am not as active as some of the others here. But with that said I think I ought to put some of my thoughts in while I can.

While I do agree with @Necem That if we all claim what roles our pieces seem to have in this it could make it more likely that our valued protector is taken out in the next twilight, I do accept that saying this will possibly put some suspicion on me and if enough of you request I will share information on my pieces role. For now I will happily say that out of everyone who has claimed a gamepiece (being @Aspirety, @pictoshark, @thesorceress, @Wonderlander and @EternalMagician. Sorry if I’m missing any), the identity of my gamepiece does not conflict with any of these.

Regarding @thesorceress, I do not see any point in accusing her too far, it seems like their piece has had a hard day. And unless they or one of their (possible) companions seriously slips up we will have no evidence for or against them.
I do believe that every twilight we should be keeping an eye on all possible roles that we can determine from the tale of our game pieces @Rabla has been magnificently showing us and if any roles do appear that seem like it would benefit neither of the two other sides, then we can set our sights back on @thesorceress.

Now for the strategys to keep our pieces alive another day, I agree that keeping our investigator and switcher alive should be our top priority (unless of course we will be simply helping keep the witches alive). It would make sense to coordinate if the protector or @pictoshark is going to help keep @EternalMagician alive to save ourselves from having someone over-protected and another completely open. So, if everyone is happy with this, I think that we could have @pictoshark swap @EternalMagician with somebody and whoever the protector is, protect @pictoshark.
Of course if this idea isn’t liked or if i’m being an idiot and completely missing something important then please do speak up.

#133

OH GOD I JUST HAD A LIGHT BULB

What if we spread our net as widely as possible, so we had one ability on each person who we don’t have a description for.

That way we could massively cut down on suspects for murderer, just by figuring out who all of the “older men” are.

Who do we have “descriptions” of? Who do we not? Time to throw the net as wide as possible, and target everyone with abilities who have not been targeted. Is that cool?

#134

I do like this idea and agree that using the information that @Rabla gives us to the best of our ability could greatly help us. Do you think that we should have all people who haven’t claimed yet give an idea about what it could say to try and bring out any liars and that way nobody with the roles will have to say who they used their abilities on, revealing potentially useful roles.
So I think if we get a list of what everyones is going to say (eg someone could say ‘Mine is likely to say that I am an adult man’) then after the twilight everyone says which one they were and if we have a clash in who is claiming what (eg nobody claims one that comes up) then we can deal with it the following day.

#135

While that sounds efficient on the paper, that would basically be the same as letting the detective die? What do the others think? I wanna go along with majority on this one.

@Karifean Meow? If @pictoshark is drawing @Aspirety out, I wanna draw you out. :wink: Thoughts? :smiley:

#136

Correct me if I’m wrong here but isn’t it the protector whose identify we do not know, @EternalMagician has claimed the detective
Regardless. Your point still stands and this should definitely be considered, I agree that we should take a vote.
For now I’m voting that we do risk losing the protector for the sake of finding the old man and we all use abilities on the unclaimed to identify our game pieces.

#137

I’m inclined to believe the people who’ve claimed a role are all telling the truth. Unless I’m forgetting someone I believe everyone but @Pepe has posted since daylight broke, and so far no claims have been contested. And from @PictoShark’s testimony we can infer Pepe to be a servant, which doesn’t apply to any characters that were claimed so far. It’s possible @thesorceress has more to her objective than they’re letting on, but given how swiftly they revealed themselves I don’t think that’s all that likely either. As for the possibility that @EternalMagician faked their reveal, that would mean our game master, @Rabla, intentionally went along with his deception, and while Rabla is technically on the witch side in-universe I don’t think he’d let that go through as the moderator of this game. If he does, well, I misjudged him, but I’m rather confident.

From my perspective the most suspicious people are therefore @Necem, @RegNewmont, @SuperM and @PocketyHat. Possibly also @Aspirety who latched onto the idea of revealing identities and just ‘happened’ to be a vanilla Battler. Who knows, maybe he’s actually a black Battler, out to massacre the people on the island? But the more I think about it the more I think @Pepe’s character might be witch-side, as maybe his role described as “intent on keeping an eye on people” is actually Roleblock? It’s rather suspicious that we didn’t hear anything about roles being blocked in this rundown, and while it’s naturally also possible there is no Roleblock character in this round, it was such a prominent part of the previous game that it’s hard for me to think that would be the case. It’s also possible they didn’t use their ability, I suppose, but… well, I think it’s more likely that it was used than that it wasn’t.

On that note I have to ask Rabla something in regards to the rules. Do vanilla roles learn that they’ve been roleblocked? Because if so, and Wonderlander didn’t get any such message then all of my previous conjenctures can be safely discarded. But if not, it might just be worth further consideration.

For now I’ll go with that, since we do have to vote on something eventually. If anyone has any other, better suspicions - or if Rabla denies the possibility I imagined - I’ll be glad to change my vote. Especially from the man himself, Pepe, I’d like to hear something. You still haven’t said anything since daybreak, man, and it’s been almost a full day!

Vote: Pepe

#138

Doesn’t my theory fit (if we still want to entertain the possibility of him lying)? This wouldn’t be @Rabla going along with the deception, as far as @Rabla sees it, he corrected the situation by telling everyone what he told me.

I think Karifean speaks sense, so I think I’ll vote for @Pepe but I shan’t be hasty and make it official, wouldn’t want majority to be reached too fast.

Hangh, I had a plan but I will literally forget it by morning so I guess I better let the cat out of the bag now.

I am suspicious of @Aspirety

This post was to bait him into saying he read the example game. I think I have a decent grasp on Aspi’s personality, he feels like the kind of person who would read that example game during the first game.

And if he had read that game by the start of this game, then hoo boy, does he have some explaining to do.

I only read the example game recently, (just before i started counting the posts to cook up my spread sheet) and in that game, one particular user goes over why voting randomly at the start is a TERRIBLE move for the Human side, and how they should use other means to determine their votes.

That is why I am suspicious of @Aspirety

Sorry for not having a better head on my shoulders guys, If I could just remember this till morning then I could ahve grabbed more conclusive proof by baitng a reaction from him.

STILL! How do you respond, @Aspirety? Are you going to deny reading it?

#139

Oh, Karifeaaaaaan!!! Not like you to make such a mistake! Especially after you basically said above the servant visited @pictoshark and not me!

Which one is it oh the great Voyager? Because I sure can’t figure you out. But I will tell you what it isn’t! @Pepe is NOT a roleblocker! Were he one, our dear @pictoshark would be roleblocked and therefore, no switch would have happened!

Well, if you check his profile, you will see his last visit was 2 days ago. Come on Karifeaaaaaaan! Don’t tell me you didn’t check his profile! I find that hard to believe!!

And I find your behavior very peculiar. You present yourself a bit, but you don’t stand in the forefront. Perfect witch behavior. So, without further ado…

Vote: Karifean

Please dear @Karifean, do your best to convince me otherwise, okay? :slight_smile:

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#140

…pfft hahaha oh my god I can’t believe I made that kind of mistake. For some reason I had it in my head that you were the one targeted by the servant, but of course it was our switcher himself so it couldn’t possibly have been roleblock. I really have no excuse for this. But hey it’s a bit comforting that PictoShark didn’t realize the gigantic hole in my reasoning either so I don’t feel alone =P

No I didn’t check his profile. I usually don’t check profiles for absences in general, I prefer to get in character enough to have “silently observing” and “actually not present” be indistinguishable. Call it a quirk of mine if you will.

Aaaand I wish I had a counter-argument to this but I don’t. It’s true, if I were a witch I’d probably be playing about the same way as I am right now. Well maybe I’d have claimed a fake role at this point. But well, I’ll just have to appeal to your good faith and trust towards me. And yes, even I realize how suspicious that sounds, but I can’t make convincing arguments where there aren’t any to be made.

Either way…

Change Vote: No Vote

I’ll just quickly mention that this doesn’t clear my suspicions of Pepe; it’s still possible he’s a witch-side character. He’s just proven not to be a roleblocker. But if I was to keep my vote on him now I feel I’d lose all goodwill I’d ever had because then it would just look like I have it out for him, which I don’t. Also I’d still like to hear Pepe’s own opinion on the whole matter as well. Had he found something out during the night?

Regardless, this puts my suspicions back primarily on the quiet ones and Aspi. We still have to vote on something eventually so it’d be nice to hear everyone’s opinions some more before nightfall.